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NUM 23: 19 God [is] not a man, that he should lie; neither the son of man, that he should repent: hath he said, and shall he not do [it]? or hath he spoken, and shall he not make it good?

This verse has been held up countless times by anti Christian opponents as proof that God cannot become a man.  Now as a Christian we believe in a triune being.  Father the son and the Holy Spirit.  God the son became a man born of a woman and took on human nature.    In which Jesus was both fully God and fully man.

Col 2: 9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily

Rom 1: 20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, [even] his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:

So the question arises does this verse in Numbers dispute the verses in the New Testament?

If we simply take the first line and do what Moslems and other try to do and quote

“ GOD IS NOT A MAN” 

Now if the verse stopped there, then possibly there may be a slim glimmer of an argument.  But as you can see it does not.  Because the verse itself goes on to say:

“GOD IS NOT A MAN THAT HE SHOULD LIE.”

Notice what the verse is actually saying and not what some have made it to say.  Such is the dishonesty of those whose hatred for the very idea that God can come down among man in love to seek and save the lost. 

 The context of which God is saying that he not like someone who lying.    Further more it also goes on to build on this by saying.  “NOR THE SON OF MAN THAT HE SHOULD REPENT”.  If God is perfect why should he ever need to repent of doing something wrong?  As God does not lie he has no need to repent unlike humans.  So we can see how dishonest people go out of their way to manipulate scripture to prove something which it does not.

If anything it gives a glimpse into the hearts of many who do injustice to Gods word.  Simply they have no love for the truth or the scriptures.  For had they done so they would have never have wrestled with it to say something it never did.

Now let us look at a prime example of a dear lady who seeks to argue this very point.  As you will see she distorts the verse to say what it does not say.  We shall call this dear lady Michelle. 

Michelle:     yeshke did not fullfill the prophesies of Messiah and no GD is not a man Numbers 23:19.

In response to this statement her further response was

Michelle:     what does it say? ?? GD IS NOT A MAN. …. thank you now stop trying to tell jews that your rotting corpse gd is the GD of israel! !!

As you can see her real problem is fundamentally a hatred for Jesus.  In reality this is what Jesus himself spoke about. Now this Jewess is not the only ones to argue using this verse in this manner.  Moslems have also tried to manipulate and wrestle scripture in said manner.

Michelle:     hows this: JEWS dont require NONJEWS to interprete JEWISH SCRIPTURE. for JEWS. …… And yes numbets 23:19 GD is not a man that He should be deceitful, nor son of man that he should relent……. HELLOOOOOOOOOOO GD IS NOT A MAN! !!!!

It seems even when she quotes the rest of the verse she is unable to grasp the contextualization of the verse.  Falls back on what all cults do.  You are incapable of having an opinion which contradicts mine.  Yet it is clear how angry she has become when it is simply pointed out that she is lying and being deceitful.

  • Michelle:     i posted the correct verse but your more than welcome to reject it and continue to worship your corpse deity……

As you can see she is quite unable to grasp the gravity of her mistake.  Such is her hatred that she has become blinded to the obvious.  Sadly she is not alone as many will no doubt in an attempt to dispute the truth of the incarnate son.  Yet even if we put that fact to one side for a moment,   Simple Basic English grammar is thrown to the wind .  The verse itself does not say “God is not a man (Stop)  But he is not a man that he should LIE” 

Michelle   i love HASHEM, i worship HASHEM. i dont worship a rotting corpse as GD. ive posted you verses where HASHEM is saying HES NOT A MAN, DOES NOT DECEIVE, NOR CHANGE, yet you wish to believe the opposite of GDS words about Himself. … thats your business leave US ALONE TO WORSHIP HASHEM THE GD OF ISRAEL.

Now we can see the real reason that she feels obliged to twist scripture.  Yet is she was truly a lover of God she would seek to earnestly quote such verses correctly and in context.  This dear lady makes it clear she does not and will not  do honour to the very words God has inspired.

It also shows that she worships her religion and not her God.

Rom 1: 25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen

The dear lady brought up another verse which is worth noting.

1 Sam 15: 29 And also the Strength of Israel will not lie nor repent: for he [is] not a man, that he should repent..

Here again we have a similar verse stating almost the same words as we see in  NUM 23: 19.  As you can see the context is exactly the same.  “He is not a man….. that he should repent”  Only by cutting the verse short can you come to the conclusion this dear lady came to.  Yet the verse goes on to place the verse into context.  “a man that he should repent ”   The context of the whole verse is everything.

Michelle:    I’ve changed nothing GD says He’s not a man. so why are you worshipping a man? ??

Michelle:    I am not blind. as im not a xtian. and yiu cherry pick jewish verses and twist them to suit your false dead gd. BTW MORTALITY PROVES ONE IS NOT DEVINE. …..

Sadly this dear lady is either totally oblivious to her mistake or just chooses to lie.  I will let you choose which group she is in?