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Every so often I find myself in a debate with someone who is adamant that the sons of God produced giants and these giants were the result of angels having sexual relationship with humans.

This is what one person had to say on this:

“Let me tell you this ; no pastor has ever told me I was wrong or could prove me wrong from scripture . When the fallen Angels took daughters of men they produced an offspring called the Nephilim (meaning the fallen ones) When they died the spirit left over “bit” is a demon”

I find that almost always those who hold to this teaching do so because of an extra Biblical piece of literature called the BOOK OF ENOCH.  Very rarely do people ever come to some of these conclusions simply on scripture alone.

To summarize

Different people will have a slightly different view regarding these teachings, so I will generalise it at this point.

The theology goes like this:  These “sons of God” were angels who had the hots for human women.  They took many to become their wives and the offspring were these giants Nephilim (fallen ones) by the time Noah came along he and only his family were the only ones to have the original pure DNA, which had not been contaminated by these fallen angels.  So he was saved and declared righteous solely on the basis than his race was pure, whilst everyone else was the product of these fallen angels.  God decides he had enough and judges the world by drowning everyone bar Noah and his family in the flood.  However Gods plan fails because these angels and the “left over bit” who were half human survived the flood and were able to carry on with their wicked ideas of impregnating more human women. Others have a succession of rebellions to adlib the imprisonment of the former.

If people insist on following a donkey you never know where it will take you!

The more I look into this theology the stranger its gets.  The ramifications of such a theory as I will show has far-reaching consequences.  Scripture is twisted and changed to conform to an alien gospel built upon bible codes, new age teachings, Egyptian hieroglyphics, astrological charts, alien revelations and wild leaps of fantasies.

There seems to be an almost unbelievable obsession with the idea that fallen angels are out to have sex with women.  It never occurs to them for a moment that angels can’t produce the goods.  Whilst we are quickly told that Angels can appear and even eat food.  Eating is a long way from having the ability to reproduce and have children.   Those who hold to this theory are unable to realize that if mankind is the product of angelic interference, then man is absolved from his sin.   Man can then be personified as the helpless victim rather than the perpetrator.

“Its not me Lord its the angel who did the business with my mum”

The moment we come to that conclusion, God becomes an unjust God who takes his anger out on the victims rather than the transgressors.  Lets be clear God is a just God and he will judge mans sin because man is sinful.

In the world of the new age there are proponents of ideas that this world was seeded by aliens, and these aliens will soon come back to save the planet,  But notice that if you tweak this new age philosophy by giving it a religious tone, you come up with the same message about the sons of God producing giants.  It’s really the same message!!!   It’s all about experimentation on humans and producing a hybrid being that is not quite human and not quite alien. Many of those who hold to these theories will produce articles  in an attempt to debunk the new age message, yet all the while embracing a religious view that embraces it.

 Also when you read some of their literature Satan forces are elevated and esteemed in a way that even the Bible does not give them.

As one writer shares: The Forces arrayed against us have never been greater, not the threats more real.  It is in this dark hour that we must make our stand.

This comment might make for a gripping spy thriller, but it is not quite the truth.

Compare this to what scripture has to say on the matter:

1 John 4: 4 Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world

It is not that we should ignore that there is a threat, but we choose to realize that the one who hung on the cross has greater power than those who are arrayed against us.  The sad reality as you read through the columns of articles by those who hold to the fallen angel’s theory is that they do indeed elevate those forces onto an equal standing.  If anything there is an over obsession with  with fallen angels.  Even a brief venture on the internet reveals an almost exaltation and attraction to what they perceive as fallen angels.  If the world glories in such an attraction, why do we find the very same attraction and preoccupation with them within the church?

We are told quite clearly that the fallen angels who fell away from God were indeed locked up and imprisoned until the final judgement

Jud 1:6 And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.

But if they were locked up how could there be Giants afterwards?

Again this takes a blind leap of faith.  They have to invent more and more fallen angels to carry on with their diabolical schemes.

These Watchers were judged and some were punished by being held in Tartarus or in chains under the earth. Others were allowed to inhabit the second heavens. Watchers were falling before the flood and after the flood (Gen. 6:4). Even to this day, Watchers can fall from heaven and lose their place. All angels are created with free will and are not forced to serve God, but if they rebel against Him, they are cast out of heaven forever. The Watchers were not cursed with losing their beauty. Many have described them, also known as Nordics, as being very tall, blond hair and blue eyed and looking very human. They are referred to as the humanoid looking alien races.

The term WATCHERS is used by the book of Enoch to describe angels..  However notice that in order to get around scripture, there has to be a long list of angelic rebellions to fill in the missing pieces.  No where do we see such continuous rebellions occurring.  Other who holds to this theory have even gone to rational that some secret societies have the power to dig them up and set them free.  Clearly this is just impossibility.  But also notice that they cling as proof by even quoting New Age proponents.

The Watchers were not cursed with losing their beauty. Many have described them, also known as Nordics, as being very tall, blond hair and blue eyed and looking very human.

Is this not in itself part of this deception!!!  How can they therefore claim it as proof?  There is no doubt that demons are trying to appear as aliens, but there very appearance is itself a deception.

So that today anyone who has a genetic problem can be accused as being the product of some angelic molestation.  This was recently posted by an advocate of this theory.

Yoandri Hernandez Garrido’s nickname comes from the six perfectly formed fingers on each of his hands and the six impeccable toes on each foot.

It seems that the human race still suffers from the ancient interaction between the fallen angels (beney ‘elohim) and the “daughters of men”. It can be seen today.

The genetic defects can be seen when a child is born with six toes or six fingers

Others have even gone as far as to suggest that these giants can even look like normal sized human beings and yet still be these Nephilim.  I know try to get your head around that.  The basic problem is that there are just too many holes in this theory, so they have to improvise.  The result is that if anyone has any form of genetic irregularity they can use it as further proof of their crazy theories.  The result is inevitably a religion of racial profiling.   Because they believe that what is left over from these hybrid humans then become demons. 

 Demons are the disembodied spirits of the giant Nephilim.    Noah’s flood destroyed their bodies, but now they are disembodied spirits looking for a body through which they might once again affect their evil ways.

Again there is no evidence for this.  Yet take this to its logical conclusion.  It means for every generation of those who they claim are hybrids there is another set of demons roaming the earth.  But also that these people who they claim are Nephilim cannot be saved.  For them there is no salvation, No grace and no redemption for them.  If they die their lefts over bits become demons.  They are therefore beyond the pale of God power to save.  Is this the Gospel that Jesus shared?  That one can only be saved providing that you are racially pure?  Suddenly the issue becomes one of racial purity.  Who among us can honestly say that we are racially pure according to their theory?   Can anyone then be saved?

John 3: 16 says For God so loved the world that whosoever believes!!!  hang on there we have to change that because there are some that even if they believe that cant be saved because there not human and if they die they will become demons.  Can you see how all these ideas change the gospel.

Some of the ideas presented by these proponents just get really stranger by the minute.

Suddenly we are introduced a planet called Rahab, Lucifer’s home planet, which they believe might be what the asteroid belt was.  How do they come to that conclusion?  Through Bible codes, which is another very unreliable method of divination of the scriptures.

Based on the information I obtained from the codes, God saw this rebellion, and as a result, He revoked their celestial status and annulled Himself from them

Codes which can only be interpreted by a computer programme.  A method which has no logical basis

 Lucifer was allowed to escape to the earth with some of his forces. However, many of them were confined to the planet seeking shelter in its hollow cavity and have been imprisoned in it ever since.

Satan was not allowed to simply escape anywhere.  He was judged by God.  Though he has a measure of freedom he nevertheless is bound and controlled by God.  The proof of this is when satan had to ask Gods permission simply to touch Job.  If satan had to beg for permission how can lesser angels freely molest women to produce giants?

The response I received to this question was that “these fallen angels simply broke the rules of spiritual warfare”   So again they are forced to fill in the blank spaces

If that is the case WHO IS GREATER GOD OR FALLEN ANGELS?

So really these fallen angels are actually hiding out in the asteroid belt? Is this what scripture tells us?  Are these fallen angels simply chilling out in some cave ?  Clearly as we will see that is certainly not the case , nor is it scriptural.

But worse is yet to come in this gripping story which is worthy of some Hollywood horror film.

Planet X, or otherwise called Planet Nibiru, is the ancient Planet Rahab! The fallen angels within its cavity are reinforcement forces for Lucifer when he arrives to power on Earth as the Antichrist and becomes the global world ruler. His forces will help him run, control, and dominate earth.

Now we have the mysterious planet X heading our way to reinforce satan forces.

It has even been suggested that Satan will birth sexually his own child and he will become the antichrist. 

Notice how they elevate and credit Satan forces in a way that scripture itself does not.

Jud 1:6 And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.

Oh what about all those Nephilim, the left over bits?

1Pe 3:19-20 By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison; Which sometime were disobedient, when once the long-suffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.

The Bible makes it clear GOD  was the one who locked them up, and there they will stay.  So what died in the flood stayed dead.

However all of this lunacy presents another problem and that its indirectly attacks the nature and sovereignty of God.  Now to show that is not just a coincidence.  One writer who has published a book on the subjects tries to use a chess board to illustrate the different players.

Before anything was, there was God, and then he created the heavens and earth. Before nothingness, there was God. I will start our discussion with a time in the eons past when nothing existed but God. It is important to understand the players in the game in order to understand the conspiracy. We will use the analogy of chess. God is the king piece. The captain of the Lord’s Host (Jesus) is the knight, and the heavenly host is represented by the pawns. The bishop piece represents the righteous ones, and the board is the stage of life. The opposing side has as its king, Lucifer. The knight is Beelzebub, and the bishop piece represents the unrighteous ones. The pawns are the fallen angels. Humanity is stuck in no man’s land between the opposing forces, merely, as Shakespeare said, being actors upon the stage of the chess game of life

Is this  logical?

King = God and Lucifer

Knight = Jesus and Beelzebub

Bishops= righteous and unrighteous ones

Pawns = heavenly hosts

 Here God is presented as the king piece, and Lucifer is the other king piece.  Does the Bible present Lucifer as God’s equal?  Then what of Jesus?  He is presented as being a mere Knight on the board, and his counterpart on the other side and his equal is Beelzebub.  The Bishops are represented as both the righteous and the unrighteous ones on either side.  But the Bishop is higher in value than a knight.  Is this truly how we are to view the players on the board, and was this set up a mere accident.  I don’t think so.  Notice that mankind is simply stuck in the middle of no man’s land pulled by equal forces and therefore mere play things of the gods.  Mans actions  can then  be excused.  Satan and his hordes get themselves exalted and Jesus gets himself demoted.  The Bible clearly says that is not the case.  Yet if you follow the trail this is exactly where the road leads.