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God TV is calling this the great Awakening ,  after the revival where God used Jonathan Edwards who to bring revival to America and beyond.  Edwards at least had integrity unlike the God TV presenter. Now we have a prophecy relating this movement to the Birth of Jesus.  What pride and arrogance.  Are we to fall down before Bentley and worship such a move?

I agree with only one part of this prophecy  … GOD IS INDEED TESTING HIS CHURCH. 

Wendy Alec says  “The awakening has been birthed in a LOWLY PLACE. There are no soft pillows or cushions. No comfortable conference chair, American church seats. But thousands of cheap, plastic glaring white seats….No sophisticated sound system or overhead projectors, handheld mikes, no earpieces, fluctuating crowds.

YET NIGHTLY TV CAMERAS GRAB THE ACTION AND RECORD THE EVENTS AND MIKES ARE USED TO BELT OUT THE NOISE.   In simply terms as a prophecy it is a lie

Those who have chosen to embrace this movement do so at the cost of their own spiritual well being.  Personally it should come with a HEALTH WARNING.

There is no doubt in my mind that Bentley is the judgement of God upon a church that has noT only lost sight of the truth , but is quickly coming to reject the truth.

It is not that what Todd Bentley is doing is hidden;  in fact everything is out in the open for all to see.  It has been well documented and verified.  What we see is a form of new age Hindu mysticism.

As one time friend told another some years back when he made the decision to embrace the Toronto curse.  They needed this , it was not a matter if it was right or wrong, truth or error They wanted to embrace it . They made a fateful decision.  truth was sacrificed, and what was embraced was anything but  truth.  They paid the price for disobedience.  It saddens me that so many who called themselves Christians, can no longer measure the heights, breath or the depth of this apostasy.  They will embrace it because they have chosen to do so.   So long as It meets a need that is all they are concerned about, and to hell with the rest.  That my friend is the judgement of GOD.

Here is a prophecy by WENDY ALEC, co presenter of the God channel,  or the God TV

Great Awakening Prophetic Word from Wendy Alec of GOD TV,   THE GREATEST MOVE OF GOD – JESUS CHRIST HIMSELF WAS BIRTHED IN A HARD, HARD PLACE.    In this awakening, the Lord is not testing Todd or GOD TV. He is testing the CHURCH.

Jesus was born in a stable. There was not even room for him at the inn. The normal expected place of birth for a King was in a Palace, even an ordinary baby would be born in a home.

The next option, being born at least in an inn. Jesus was the King of Kings anointed to change the universe FOREVER. He had NO soft pillows but HAY to lay His head on. He was born in a manger.

ONLY the ones who were really following the Spirit of the Lord found Him.

The awakening has been birthed in a LOWLY PLACE. There are no soft pillows or cushions. No comfortable conference chair, American church seats. But thousands of cheap, plastic glaring white seats.

No sophisticated sound system or overhead projectors, handheld mikes, no earpieces, fluctuating crowds.

Even the worship the first few days was being sung out of key. It is not even possible to disguise the lowliness of the birth of this awakening on television. It is evident to ALL. There are no beautifully lit convention centers or even air conditioned church buildings.

The Awakening has been born IN A MANGER. In the manger. Jesus was not surrounded or feted by the Pharisees or Sadducees or the religious Jewish leaders of the day, they did not recognize Him.

And yet, He was called to be King of the Jews. The only people who recognized Him in these lowly beginnings were the three wise men and the shepherds who were in no way connected to the religious elite of the day. But the THIRD HEAVEN was there through the Portals in mass. The ANGELIC HOSTS, Gabriel, the Father’s messenger. Singing Glory to God in the highest. The Anointing was there. But it was unseen by all except the faithful few.

Today there are not many of the spiritual elite not many of the preaching circuit. In Tongaat, many are at a safe distance. Watching weighing. But the shepherds and wise men who follow the Holy Spirit understand the gift of the Father in this awakening that is being birthed.

The Hindus. The Muslims. The unlovely are gathering to be touched. It is they who sit on the plastic white seats. It is a test. It is a protection. The same way that Jesus being born in a stable was a test for the religious Jews. And a protection to outsmart the devil. To protect the very Son of God. It is uncomfortable here for Todd. It is uncomfortable for GODTV.

The same way that in the natural it was uncomfortable for Mary and Joseph. And yet in the spirit realm, something almost unimaginable is being birthed, which has the potential to change the face of the earth. Yes, Plastic white seats are offensive to us all. When they are empty they SCREAM. But the Father is JEALOUS over the birth of this baby. THIS AWAKENING. And He will allow no man, no women to receive the Glory that is His alone, so it will be evident TO ALL that it is no man. No media channel. No church. No hungry ex lake landers, that have birthed this outpouring in this HARD, HARD PLACE. But it is the Father. Lord of Hosts. Almighty God. Hallowed. Omniscient. Omnipotent. The HOLY ONE Himself. THIS has been birthed by God.

PS I don’t think anyone other than Todd would have had and have the courage and sheer guts of spirit to see this through- to stand in the HARD PLACE. And probably no one other than GODTV would have had the revelation of the shepherds and wisemen to broadcast it to the world. The Lord is very, very PROUD of his beloved Todd and Jessa.

PERSONAL WORD FOR TODD

For my son beloved son,

Do you not realize I knew when I birthed you all those years ago? I knew when Lakeland was aborted; I saw this very day.

And I chose to choose you. I chose to bring this move THROUGH you. And when you look back in days, weeks and years gone by, you will know beyond any doubt that this, that you stand in this river this flowing torrent that has yet to explode, you shall look back in wonder and know that it was by NO MAN’S hand that this was birthed but ONLY by me.

So be strong. Be strong. Be true. Be very courageous. Stand your ground. Don’t doubt when the enemy’s lies assail you, for you stand on the edge of the ocean and all looks calm. The ocean is calm; there is no great visible evidence yet of the MAGNITUDE of what lies beneath. But know that as you walk each day hand in hand with me, there shall yet be a day and be an hour. There shall be a very MINUTE when the SHIFT shall come and the TSUNAMI shall break and the whole WORLD, YES the WHOLE WORLD shall be shaken.

So do not be discouraged, my son. Do not be dismayed but know that as you stand in this HARD place, my spirit is upon you. My spirit is poured out upon you and it is IN your standing and refusing to let go that the enemy is defeated, that the witches flee for cover. That the covens stand confused and helpless. It is in this place of standing firm that you SEAL the title deeds to this AWKENING.

Oh wow, I see TITLE DEEDS to THIS GREAT AWAKENING. TITLE DEEDS that have been ASSIGNED TO YOU by the COUNCILS of HEAVEN – COURTS of HEAVEN- with your name signed by the FATHER, witnessed by JESUS and the HOLY SPIRIT.

Word for Todd and Jessa from Wendy Alec

Wendy Alec  GOD TV Founder

 Prophesy by Wendy Alec to Todd.: Lord is very, very PROUD of his beloved Todd and Jessa. How can God be proud when a relationship is birthed out of adultery and fornication?  How can GOD be proud when it is birthed out of disobedience and occultism?    I Suggest the person Wendy is listening to is not God but satan. He alone is the one proud of what these two people did.  This is not just an attempt to shove a new moved down people’s throats, but it is also an attempt to justify Lakeland  as a true move of God.  Those who follow and embrace Todd are desperate to see Lakeland exonerated. 

Whatever we one likes to put this.  Wendy Alec has chosen to place Todd central to this movement and even God himself has been forced to take second fiddle.  The one thing true revival always points to is God.  No man gets the glory in Emmanuel’s land.  60514_10151880602175884_647096403_n

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UCMINISTRIES: In order for there to be a world government you must have a catalyst upon which the world will be motivated to unite.  Such a catalyst must include an imminent and perceived danger that ones very way of life has to be in on the verge of extinction.  That threat will be one of many issues which the world will feel the need to unite.  Inevitable there has to be an individual around which that rallying cry will draw people.

The Bible calls this man the man of sin.  He will be charismatic and bold.  The very opposite of the one who rode humbly into Jerusalem on a borrowed donkey.  The one who came in his father name will be ridiculed by the man who will come in his own name.  The world will fall in love with this new messiah.  For a messiah is how he will be perceived.  For a time he will do what other could not do.  The world will grow sick of petty needless wars and long for a peace at any cost.

 John 5: 43 I am come in my Father’s name, and ye receive me not: if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive

But at what cost? 

If a man takes a journey he needs to know where that journey will take him.  The motive might start of as being courageous good and noble.  But the end may be one of darkness confusion and pain.  Somewhere along the road the journey gets hijacked.

What will you give in exchange for your soul?  Satan temptation to Jesus was bow and I will give you all these kingdoms, So we know that the one who is to come will bow to such temptation.  But how will humanity bow?  Oh they will not see satan as that big and nasty rebellious fallen angel ,  He will be well disguised as some angel of light dressed in the most motherly figure that the world can relate to.  How they will fall in love with that illumination.

But what will humanity give in exchange for prosperity and peace?

Will that cost be the offering of their souls?  Will it be a case of give me your veneration, your allegiance, and your soul?  In return peace prosperity and unity will follow?  It has to be a choice so great, so freely given and so final that they will place themselves beyond the pale of Gods grace.

It will be a choice of a unity or chaos.  But a unity not based on Gods principles but mans.  It will be the same message to build a tower of unity of brotherhood and oneness that will reach even to heaven.  It will become a cry that what God  hindered in Genesis, Man  by force of his  own strength will finish .

The following article is indeed a noble thought, a unity against an intolerent enemy.    The journey has started but where will it end?   A journey that is truly being forced upon humanity.

The following comes from a coalition against Islamization of the world

 The World Coalition Against Islamization is partner with ICLA. We warmly recommend our members to subscribe.    http://www.libertiesalliance.org/

I know really deeply different cultures and religions, all have been exterminate without any pity by muslims barbarians. So it is global problem, it should be solved together, Christians, Jews, Hindus, Buddhists and atheists. We all share similar values, USA, european countries, Australia, Canada, Israel, India are all democratic countries. It’s very positive, so we must stand together and fight together.Islam is not only a western problem and we are close civilizations in term of history interactions and evolutions. It is a matter of fact, we have a main problem with correctness language presenting Islam as a “normal” religion, these people using this kind of language, accusing us to be intolerant racists. So the question is also to counter this view, it is a reason why we should build a larger unity. For me it is a question of heart and love. But I should put also the stress on strategy if people don’t understand such feelings.

We should stop to present this freedom war as a kind of crusade. It’s a way to change the opinion against an exclusive western anti Islam, it must be a global freedom anti Islam front. Christians, Jews, Hindus, Buddhists, Atheists together, this time we will be listen. No doves will reply anymore, we are intolerant or racist and many “correctness birds” right or left will join us. We are sometime very backward in the west, because it’s been a long time our Jewish and Hindu friends have built together a strong brotherhood. It’s time for all to march in the same steps, without proselytism.

Our purpose is not to convert people to any religion or to be a party. I would support anyone understanding Islam as lethal and totalitarian ideology for all. Our duty as members of the same mankind is to work together against a threat that should be a concern for all. Islam is also the cause of unbearable oppression to women, young girls and homosexuals. Our single purpose is to defend life and freedom for all. I don’t want any discrimination between us. UNITED WE STAND, DIVIDED WE FALL. Contact Jean-Luc STUMPF: 33628305260

Such terms as the BROTHERHOOD, HUMANITY, ONENESS ,GLOBAL, UNITY , will take on strong meanings.  The danger has to be real for this to work.  After two great world wars one of the major lessons to come out of those wars was that we could not fight a war using medieval tactics against modern weaponry.  But now perceive a political and religious ideology that’s steeped in primitive medieval thinking suddenly getting hold of modern nuclear and biological weapons.  The end result would not just be cataclysmic but life itself would truly be on the verge of extinction.  So we will see not just a political drive but also a global drive towards a unity of the survival of the species.  In the end it will not matter if the threat would or could be carried out, the very fact that the world will be convinced of the threat to be real will be enough.  So in the name of survival those who do not embrace this new humanity will soon become the enemy of humanity.  I suspect many within Islam itself will embrace what is to come.  The new humanity of a one world government will always be a bad mixture of what Daniel saw as the Iron and clay.  

The iron hand alongside the sinfulness of humanity. 

The brutality of legalism  and the weakness of sinful man.  Brutality will be expounded in the name of peace.  Execution as an act of mercy.  Cruelty an expression of Love.  Such will be the twisted ideals of a humanity gone mad.  The final completion of the tower that was started in Genesis is finally completed at the end of the age.  Such will be the boldness of this man of sin that he will be able to shake his fist at God and convince the world that together they will be able to conquer even the very throne of God if so desired.  That’s why the psalmist could say.

Ps 2: 1– 5  Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing.  The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers take counsel together, against the LORD, and against his anointed, [saying], Let us break their bands asunder, and cast away their cords from us. He that sitteth in the heavens shall laugh: the Lord shall have them in derision. Then shall he speak unto them in his wrath, and vex them in his sore displeasure.

God’s word is the only word that will stand secure.

Ps 2: 6 Yet have I set my king upon my holy hill of Zion.  I will declare the decree: the LORD hath said unto me, Thou [art] my Son; this day have I begotten thee.

It is not Islam that is destined to win the globe, but ethically an antichrist religion devoid of true humanity, love compassion, tolerance and peace.  But it will be put forward in the name of such virtues.

Whilst this description can and does reflect Islam in part, the reality is that the world, including Moslems are more than ever aware of Islam’s shortcomings.   

If Islam conquered the world there would only be Iron.  But the last great empire has to be a mixture of both Iron and clay.  United and yet never truly one.

The violence and intolerance of Islam is as hurtful to Islam as it is to those who reject Islam.  No what is to come has to include all creeds faiths organisations.  The concept of a united unity of all religions and governments that are forced to unite against a common foe .  One but never truly one.  Mixed and yet still separated. Only United because of the common enemy.  The one enemy that will inevitable reject such a unity will be the true bible believing Christianity.  We will refuse to contribute to this modern tower of Babel.

NOR WILL BE BOW TO ONE WHO MOCKS AND DERIDES OUR SAVIOUR.

The inevitable fruit that a society produces when they come to reject God.

Rom 1:28-31  And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient; Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers, Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, Without understanding, covenant breakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:

UC MINISTRIES:  I came across and interesting piece of information.  That article was called AMERICA: A NATION IN DECLINE AND SLOWLY CRACKING UP.  Now it was interesting because I have also started to notice that society is developing some strange behavioural patters.  Whilst the article describes instances from the American point of view, there have been patterns emerging all over the place.  Subtle signs that society may well be changing. 

The recent shocking news of the shooting of Thusha Kamaleswaran as she danced and played in her uncle’s shop.  In a moment her life was forever changed. The little girl, now six, is expected to be permanently wheelchair-bound after a bullet hit the seventh vertebra of her spine.  She was not the intended target but an innocent bystander.  The horror of such an instance one might have thought that this was somewhere in America.  But this was in London England. 

The attackers were members of the infamous Brixton-based GAS gang – short for Guns And Shanks – and were hunting youths from the rival ABM – or All ‘Bout Money – gang, based in neighbouring Stockwell.   Old Bailey jury returned an unanimous verdict of guilty. The trio stood with their hands in their pockets, showing no emotion as the verdicts were announced.  Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2120557/Thusha-Kamaleswaran-shooting-video-Moment-girl-5-gunned-Stockwell.html#ixzz1qJiRmqzS

The recent arrests of gangs who have kidnapped women, some are no more than children with the sole intend of selling them for sex.  Apparently in the heart of the nation that was so instrumental in abolishing the slave trade, a new slave trade is emerging.  Where once border patrols strive to keep out the drug dealers and smugglers, only to find people are growing the stuff locally in their attics or in their cellars.  The question is how much are we changing?

 How many stories do we hear of relatives or friends who in some fit of mental anguish or insanity kill, and then turn the very weapon on themselves.  Has society become so bereft of a moral conscience that they no longer recognise that there is a right and wrong?  In the age of secularism  have we have lost the message of a personal God.  Death  then is nothing more than the extinction of life.  NO God, no soul that survives death and no hereafter to be concerned with?  When man takes God out of the equation strange things do indeed begin to happen..

Whilst I may not come to the same conclusions or agree with everything the article says.  There is a recognition that something is happening.   In that respect I totally agree. 

 “While following accounts of the U.S. soldier in Afghanistan who went on a bizarre rampage and murdered 16 civilians including children, you might have missed the story of the Indiana man who brutally assaulted a coach at a Catholic school on March 7.

The man, Shelly Miller, 37, had arrived at the school to pick up his daughter from afternoon basketball practice. The girl had been in an argument with another player. Assistant coach Jeffrey Yackus had told the two to run laps around the gym. This is hardly a cruel or unusual punishment; coaches have been doing it for decades. When the girl told her father about it, he jumped Yackus. He struck the coach in the face and knocked him to the ground; then climbed atop him and pummeled him into unconsciousness.

Yackus, who was taken to an emergency room and diagnosed with a concussion, might have been injured worse had a senior coach not pulled his attacker away. Miller fled the scene and was arrested two days later. He has been charged with class C felony assault.

According to a follow-up story, some who accompanied Miller to his arraignment defended his actions to local media. One of them said—are you sitting down?—“If the coach is [expletive] with your kid, what are you to do?”

That same week in Springfield, Mass., one Timothy Lee Forbes, 34, allegedly attacked the coach of the opposing team after his son’s team lost a basketball game and bit off a portion of the man’s ear. He then fled. He later turned himself in, but pled not guilty to a variety of charges including assault and battery, disorderly conduct, and felony mayhem.

The Western Massachusetts CYO Basketball League released a statement saying it was “stunned by this act against one of our most dedicated coaches” and that this was the first time in the history of the league anything like this had happened.

Another Massachusetts father, Joseph Cordes, 42, whose daughter’s hockey team had made the state playoffs, is facing criminal charges after directing the beam from a hand-held laser pointer at the eyes of the opposing team’s goalie. Fans spotted the moving green light on the goalie’s helmet, prompting officials to stop the game until the parent was removed from the stands.

These are just three very recent cases of parents displaying weird and violently irrational behavior at sporting events. There are plenty other signs that we live in a country some of whose people seem deeply unhinged. Some accounts make you wonder if you are jeopardizing your safety by going into certain public venues.

Fast food restaurants have been witness to an epidemic of customer violence. Strangely, many of the perpetrators are women.

In January, in Toledo, Ohio, a woman punched through the glass of a drive through window at a McDonalds when she was told they didn’t sell Chicken McNuggets in the morning.

Last April at a national hiring day at a McDonalds in Cleveland, a woman got into an argument with a group of other job seekers, threw her vehicle into reverse and backed through the group on her way out of the parking lot (video—warning: disturbing images).

In a Baltimore, Maryland McDonalds, a woman described as transgendered was brutally assaulted by a group of women after coming out of a restroom. One of her attackers accused her of trying to talk to “her man.” The attack was captured on video by an employee who chuckled as he filmed (warning: language!). He neither stopped the attack nor assisted the victim. According to a report an older woman who did try to intervene at one point was shoved away. The beaten woman was lying on the floor having seizures after the attack ended.

Some of these cases aren’t especially recent. Consider this one, from 2008 in Los Angeles—a city clearly gone over the cliff in many respects. In this case, a fight broke out over who was first in line in a McDonalds. A 16 year old girl confronted a man whose son had allegedly broke in line in front of two of her friends. The confrontation escalated to exchanges of curses; then he began hitting her until she was knocked unconscious. He fled with the boys in a pickup truck.

Not to single out McDonalds. According to another story also from a few years back a male customer at a Wendy’s in a Pittsburgh subdivision returned to punch out a female employee who had been working the drive through in the face after he didn’t hear a “have a nice day” from her.

As I said: not just violent but weird. The obvious question is, what is making people do these irrational things?

Brawls are breaking out in Chuck-E-Cheese restaurants, which used to be safe and enjoyable places for parents to bring children. Now it is not just kids getting into fights, often over video games. Sometimes parents fight, defending their kids. Michael Snyder, who writes the EndoftheAmericanDream.com blog, just reported that one particular Chuck-E-Cheese restaurant in Susquehanna, Penn. has experienced 17 incidents where police had to be called during an 18 month period.

The worst of these ended a birthday party. Unruly children were helping themselves to food from the table where the party was being held although not invited. Eventually, after repeatedly telling the children to stop, one of the parents complained to the other parents, and the result was an abrupt physical attack. Snyder quotes the victim: “All I remember was hitting the floor and being kicked again and again in the head… I think her husband jumped in and was kicking me too….

My daughter threw up, and another one of the children wet their pants because they were so scared.”

The same source recounts how a 60-year old Michigan woman was brutally attacked at a birthday party at a Chuck-E-Cheese and taken by ambulance to an emergency room after complaining that a group of adults were not controlling their kids. A 200-pound woman had jumped on top of her and started beating her.

One of the curious features of all these incidents, and many others besides, is how onlookers are either indifferent to sometimes injured victims or find them entertaining—filming them and uploading the films to YouTube.

Many of these people are behaving as if they are playing a video game!

In Detroit this past February, an 86-year-old World War II Veteran named Aaron Brantley was attacked and carjacked at a gas station. His leg was broken in the attack, and since he couldn’t walk, he had to crawl across the parking lot, which was busy with people walking and driving through. Just as no one had intervened to stop the attack, no one came to help him. “People were passing me just like I wasn’t even there,” he said later. “I was crawling and they just walk by me like I’m not there.”

He wasn’t bitter about the attack, just happy to have gotten through it alive.

This is only a handful of cases. There are many, many more. A search for restaurant violence on YouTube yielded 1,320 hits. I won’t recount more. We’d be here all night. “

 March 27, 2012  NewsWithViews.com

For the full article  BY Professor Steven Yates  go to :      Http://www.newswithviews.com/Yates/steven151.htm

THIS IS WITHOUT DOUBT JUST THE TIP OF THE ICEBERG. 

Listen to this video and then ask yourself this question:

 Does this verse in Hosea bare any relation to what we have seen around the world?

 Hosea 4: 3-4 Therefore shall the land mourn, and every one that dwelleth therein shall languish, with the beasts of the field, and with the fowls of heaven; yea, the fishes of the sea also shall be taken away. Yet let no man strive, nor reprove another: for thy people [are] as they that strive with the priest.

There are times in one’s life that you come across people who stager the imagination.  Like a story someone has told but you never believe it really exists.  Today in America there are groups that preach a gospel that is devoid of the compassion or love of God.  To them Gods love is something which they refer to in  “pass tense”, God once loves somebody at some time but now he has only hatred for the wicked.    There is no place for the love of God in their lives at least not towards those they consider the wicked, which in many areas is just about everyone bar themselves.

They seem unable to embrace the basic reality that Gods nature is love, so they emphasis those scriptures which talks about the anger of God towards the wicked.  They will talk about how God hates the wicked.     But they will deny the reality of Gods love and compassion towards the lost.

One such preacher which this post has mentioned before has made it obvious what he truly believes.  I hope he comes to the reality that we who have received such love are also obliged to give it also.  Let us look at this growing reality both from scripture and from the prophetic.

A debate which took place on Face Book

 

THE LOVE OF MANY WILL GROW COLD.

Mat 24: 11- 12 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.  And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.

This prophecy has become a frightening realisation today.  But to see a doctrine being preached among those who claim to be Christian that actually rejects  both the authority of scripture and the fundamental doctrine that it teaches must clearly speak of a terrible coldness among those who claim to be Christians.  The Bible prophetically declares that this condition will arise because of the  iniquity is allowed to grow  unchecked. Lyman seems to dig his heals in and like some spoiled child stumps his feet and refuses to acknowledge that God could have any feelings others  than hate.

WHEN ONLY HATE IS LEFT ACCORDING TO THIS PREACHER!

Romans 5: 8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us. (KJ)

Rom 5: 8 But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us. (NASB)

This debate which took place on (FB) should have any sincere Christian deeply troubled, for here we have someone calling himself a preacher actually denying some of the most basic doctrines of scripture, not once but twice.

This is how men like James lyman try to justify that God no longer has love for this world.  However this is also King James Version of writing.  It does not in fact mean past tense in the sense God once loved someone and has now abandoned that concept.  Such a concept runs contrary to Gods nature for God does not change.

In fact God was indeed showing love even when we were still sinners.  So rather than proving Lymans claim it actually proves him wrong.  Gods hand was outstretched desiring man to turn to himself.  If God was once showing sinners love then gave up on it, why then did Jesus even bother to come to earth never mind dying for us.  Did he simply sent Jesus as an act of love and justice , then afterwards decided it was too much effort on his part  and gave up on the whole idea?  Clearly NO NO NO .

GODS NATURE IS LOVE

1 John 4: 8 He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love.

Here we have the emphatic nature of God.  Now we know that this is true because as his sons we are to have the same nature as God has towards others.  We are not to be partial in loving only those who would love us, nor as so many who walk passed as the poor man who was laying by the way side broken and bleeding from wounds received at the hands of bandits.  But leapt of his mule and at his own risk was willingly  and desiring to treat  the injured  man and bound his wounds.  This is but a reflection of the love and compassion of God towards his creation.    So also are we to be of that same nature as our Lord and saviour.

This verse also warns that those who are unable to love others ….DO NOT EVEN KNOW GOD.  Men like James lyman who openly admits that he has no compassion and has been known to refer to himself as the cruel messenger.

GOD LOVES WITHOUT PARTIALITY

Mat 5: 45 That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.

To be the children of God our love must also be without partiality towards others.  This verse does not refer to some past reality whereby he now withhold rain from some and give it to others.  But he has established this world to the benefit of all.

Math 4: 46 For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same?

If we simply love some because they agreed with us, then we are no better than the religious crowd.  We are to love even those who do not agree.  Men like Richard Wurmbrand who came to love the communist prison guards. He was tortured and abused yet he was able to show Gods love towards them.

ALL ARE DEEMED LOST

When men like lyman accuse people of being wicked usually on absolute No basis on which he can justify, It should be realised that he also is as wicked as can be.  In reality we are all wicked and dreadful sinners before a holy pure and perfect God.  The only way anyone of us can approach God is in the righteousness of another.  That righteousness comes from the one and only perfect son Jesus Christ.  Who lived a perfect life and died a perfect death.

So if God No longer loves us then none of us are saved.  If he is not commending that perfect love towards us then what is he commending towards the sinner NOW?.  Are we to change that verse to read something other than what it says.  Should it now read that “God commended his wrath to us that while were sinners God hated us” Or is that adding and changing the word of God.  If God does not commend his love towards us what hope is there , for we are certainly unable to save ourselves.

GODS LOVE AND ANGER RESOLVED

A couple stand in court to hear the judgement on their son who has cruelly murdered and slain numerous people.  They might hate him for the crime that he has committed,  and they may feel disgusted at his actions,  But they will also love him because he is their son and they desire that he turns from the direction in which he was heading.  They will hear the evidence and realised that he is guilty as charged.  The news of the sentencing will break their hearts because he is still their son.  God love desires beyond anything else only the well-being of his creation, but he also knows that mankind is also guilty of rebellion and sin.  This will involve both the righteousness and the compassion of God.  With one will be the judgement of the guilty party and the other his desire to see the guilty restored back to a right relationship with him.  Both the righteous judgement and the love of God meet at the cross and are satisfied.  Christ took what was not his to take, our sins.  In exchanged he gave us his righteousness to clothe us.

GODS LOVE  FULFILS THE LAW OF GOD

Math 19: 19 Honour thy father and [thy] mother: and, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

Mat 22: 39 And the second [is] like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

Luk 6: 35 But love ye your enemies, and do good, and lend, hoping for nothing again; and your reward shall be great, and ye shall be the children of the Highest: for he is kind unto the unthankful and [to] the evil.

Now is there any room here for some CRUEL MESSENGER?   Who lacks even the slightest Biblical understanding of scripture?    But the greatest danger is that he places himself in a position in which he rejects what God says

CHRIST WAS GODS PROOF THAT HE LOVES US

1 John 3: 16 Hereby perceive we the love [of God], because he laid down his life for us: and we ought to lay down [our] lives for the brethren.

1 John 4: 7 Beloved, let us love one another: for love is of God; and every one that loveth is born of God, and knoweth God.

But having the ability to love others also proves that we are born of God and knows God.  But the person who rejects that love and does not believe that God still loves even the wicked what of them?  The scripture clearly tells us they do not even know God and are not born again.  This is why we can say with a certainty that James Lyman may not even be born again

1 John 4: 19 We love him, because he first loved us.

WHAT NATURE DOES GOD SEEK TO TRANSFORM US INTO?

If God now only hates the sinner then to love the sinner would be an act of disobedience on our part, but as we have seen that is not what scripture teaches.

Gal 5: 14 For all the law is fulfilled in one word, [even] in this; Thou shalt LOVE THY NEIGHBOUR AS THYSELF.

Gal 5: 22 But the FRUIT OF THE SPIRIT IS LOVE, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,….”

So the fundamental nature of the Christian is being transformed into the same nature as Gods., But what happens when someone who calls themselves a Christian and does not even support this theology, Can he still be considered a Christian?  In many ways the answer has already been given.

Again is this nature a past event in the believer’s life or a present and ongoing reality and if so who is making that reality real in the believer’s life.  If so what does that say about Gods desire for man.

GODS LOVE IS NO FREE MEAL TICKET.

Lyman and people like him because they have some twisted concept of love, somehow believe that such a doctrine must mean that if Gods loves everyone then everyone will get to heaven.  But that is no where taught in scripture.  God has appointed a time when he will judge the souls of  all men.  For those who have rejected and despised his hand of friendship and love their will be a fearful judgement.  God is not to be spurned.  But if people choose to reject God offer of love and salvation, if they refuse to be changed by him then his justice will be the last option.

THERE IS NO EXCUSE FOR BAD THEOLOGY

It must also be realised that people do not come to a theology as James lyman has without some real deep personal issues.  Either it has to do with unforgiveness towards others or unrepentance.    It is therefore an issue to pray for this man and men like him.  Pray that Gods true motives will be made real to them.  Pray for a deep conviction and a revelation of whom and what God is.  Pray that these men will find the real Jesus of the Bible, rather than a contrived God of their own imagination.  Most of all to show them what they seldom are able to show others which is the true LOVE of God.

Presented is a number of Old Testament verses showing how Christ was the fulfilment of what was promised.  I have no doubt I have probably missed a few.

Old Testament Prophecy New Testament
Genesis 3:15  Seed of Woman Matthew 1:20
Isaiah 7:14  Virgin Born Matthew 1:18
Genesis 49:10  Tribe of Judah Luke 3:23,33
Genesis 7:12; 17:7; 22:18  seed of Abraham  Galatians 3:16
Genesis 21:12  seed of Isaac Hebrews 11:18
Psalm 132:11; Jeremiah 23:5 seed of David Acts 13:23; Romans 1:3
Micah 5:2 Born at Bethlehem Matthew 2:1
Psalm 72:10 Presented With Gifts Matthew 2:1,11
Jeremiah 31:15 Herod Kills Children Matthew 2:16
Hosea 11:1   Called out of Egypt Matthew 2:14-15
Isaiah 11:2 Anointed by the Holy Spirit Matthew 3:16-17
Isaiah 7:14 Shall Be called  Immanuel Matthew 1:23
Deuteronomy 18:15-18 Prophet like unto Moses John 4 : 19 Acts 3:20-22
Isaiah 7: 14 Messiah (anointed or Christ) Luke 2: 10-11 John 4: 25-26
Isaiah 40:3 Preceded by a Messenger Matthew 3:1-2
Isaiah 42:1-2 was meek, and without ostentation Philippians 2:7-9
Isaiah 40:11; 42:3 His compassion Matthew 12:15-20Hebrews 4:15
Isaiah 53:9 without deceit 1 Peter 2:22
Isaiah 61:1 Preached good news Luke 4:14-21
Is 6: 9    psalm 78:2 Spoke in parables and they did not understand Matthew 13: 14-15
Malachi 3:1 Cleansed the Temple Matthew 21:12-13
Psalm 69:9; Great Zeal for the house of God John 2:17
Isaiah 35:5-6 Ministry of Miracles Matthew 9:35
Zechariah 9:9 Enter Jerusalem on a donkey Luke 19:35-37
Psalm 2:8 Priestly prayer for heathen Acts 10:44
     
Psalm 41:9 Betrayed by a Friend John 13:21
Zechariah 11:12 Sold for 30 Pieces of Silver Matthew 26:15
Zechariah 11:13 Money Thrown Down In God’s House Matthew 27:5
Zechariah 13:7 Forsaken by His disciples Matthew 26:56
Psalm 35:11 Accused by False Witness Matthew 26:59-60
Isaiah 53:7 Dumb Before Accusers Matthew 27:12
Isaiah 53:5 Wounded and Bruised Matthew 27:26
Isaiah 50:6 Smitten and Spit Upon Matthew 27:30
Psalm 22:7-8 Mocked Matthew 27:31
Psalm 22:16 Hand and Feet Pierced John 20:25
Isaiah 53:12 Crucified With Thieves Matthew 27:38
Psalm 22: 14-15 Bones out of joint(crucifixion)  
Psalm 22:18. Garments Parted and Lots Cast John 19:23-24
Psalm 22:1 His Forsaken Cry Matthew 27:46
Zechariah 12:10 Side Pierced John 19:34
Isaiah  53: 8 Died John 19:33
Isaiah  53: 8-9 Innocent of any crime Matthew 27: 24 Acts 7: 52
Isaiah  53 : 10 Resurrected John 2: 22
Isaiah 53: 12 Bore the sin of many 1 Peter 2: 24
Amos 8:9 Darkness Over the Land Matthew 27:45
Psalm 34:20 Bones were not broken John 19:31-36.
Isaiah 53:9 buried in a rich man’s tomb Matthew 27:57-60
Psalm16:10 Led captivity captive Eph 4: 8
Psalm 68:18 Ascension Acts 1:9
Psalm 110:1 Sat down at the right hand of God Hebrews 1:3
Isaiah 28:16  Ps 118:22-23 Isaiah  8:14 Foundation stone of new covenant     Rejected Rom 9:33   1 Peter 2:6-8
Psalm 110:4; Zechariah 6:12-13 priest after the order of Melchizedek Hebrews 5:5-6
Joel 2: 28-30 Holy Spirit given Acts 2:4
Isaiah 2:1-3; Micah 4:12 His law went forth from Zion and His Word from Jerusalem Luke 24:46-49; Acts 2:1-40

 

Without God it is impossibly but with God all things are possible

Messianic Prophecy – The Odds of Fulfillment
We can understand the power of Messianic Prophecy when we consider statistical odds that one person fulfilled all of them. If we study just seven of the specific prophecies, that were later fulfilled in the Person of Jesus Christ, we are amazed by the impossibility!

  • Messianic Prophecy                                      Odds Without God
1. Jesus would be a descendant of David. 104 (1 in 10,000)
2. Jesus would be born in Bethlehem. 105 (1 in 100,000)
3. Jesus would be a miracle worker. 105 (1 in 100,000)
4. Jesus would present Himself as King riding on a donkey. 106 (1 in 1,000,000)
5. Jesus would be betrayed by a friend for 30 pieces of silver. 106 (1 in 1,000,000)
6. Jesus would be crucified. 106 (1 in 1,000,000)
7. Jesus would first present Himself as King 173,880 daysfrom the decree of Artaxerxes to rebuild Jerusalem.       106 (1 in 1,000,000)
  Total Probability (without God) 1038 (1 in a 100 billion, billion, billion, billion)

There can be no doubt that Jesus fulfilled all these prophecies and more.  This alone sets the Bible apart from other works of literature.  Once you grasp the reality it can and will change your life.  Many of the men who were inspired to write were from different background and even lived many hundred of years apart.  There can be in the end only one author to the Bible and that is God himself who placed his word into the hearts and minds of those who wrote these prophecies down.