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UCMINISTRIES : This is but a crude illustration which describes the origin of the Word of Faith, or as some have coined The Prosperity Movement..  Whilst this is by no means a complete or exhaustive picture, it does show how the origins of this teaching stem not from scripture but the doctrines of men.   The various relationships between the various ministries may vary from person to person, but there can be no doubt that the influences do exist.

Jude 1: 4 For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ

2 Peter 2: 1 But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction

2 Peter 3: 3 And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not.

This was predicted centuries ago and we are now seeing the fulfilment.  Sadly many a good man or women has been caught up in the movement and swept along.  These Pillow prophets have merchandised the gospel, crept in under our radar and seduced the church with their pernicious teachings.    I can only hope in time this tree with be added to show how others fit into the picture.  Mark them well as they have neither the health of your soul or your spiritual well being in mind.

Mat 7: 15 -18 @ 20 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.  Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither [can] a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.

There are many who do come to reject what Hagin taught, yet do not even realise that they are still drinking from the same polluted well. The same theology of faith as a force and the power in words to create ones own reality, still posses a heavy cocktail that many find to hard to renounce.  Motivational speakers like Joyce Mayer and Joel Osteen present to the unwary their own rehash revamped mixture of positive thinking and prosperity gospel all rolled into one.  Many see in these preachers what they lack in themselves, a positive image, a deep sense of self worth, and the need to see themselves in a more positive constructive light.  The sad reality however it is still not the gospel.  What makes this all the more dangerous is that these preachers are elevated and enthroned on pedestals as latter day apostles.  They cannot be questioned or rebuked less you are touching upon the Lords anointed.

The roots of this philosophy go very deep into a theology that’s alien to scripture.  Whilst Biblical terms like faith in God are used, inevitably faith gets placed in everywhere else but God.     The message may sound overwhelmingly positive but positivity in of itself is still not scripture. 

Scripture is made into a repetitive confession simply to be declared, rather than a belief to be lived by, and just because a man can confess there is a GOD does not mean he truly knows him.  A reptititious confession cannot bring a man closer to God, than reading a book makes you known to the author.

To say that the gospel has been hijacked is an under statement.  It has been repackaged, relabelled, prostituted to the ninth degree, Pimped out to whoever will be pay a buck, rebranded all in the name of God.  If Jesus was around to day he would have to cleanse the temple all over again.  Then we wonder why Christianity today if failing.  Unless we have smoke machines and disco lights on the platform the youth are not interested.  The Old guard are pushed out as out of touch and out of date.  Worship is more like an hour at the local disco.    

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In a recent debate on the issue of Joyce Meyers, the argument went something like this:

“But people are getting saved through her ministry”

The idea being that if Joyce and her fellow prosperity teachers are saving souls they cant be that bad.   I have a friend whose father in Law went to a Benny Hinn crusade and went forward to be saved.  After that they would not hear anything bad about Benny. 

NOW IT A FAIR ENOUGH QUESTION IF THEY ARE WINNING CONVERTS SURELY THAT CAN’T BE BAD?

Now please notice that I have change the wording from actually being saved to winning converts, because numbers are not really a basis to determine if someone is genuine.  The appeal to converts does not in itself determine the message.  There is no doubt many cults including the rev Sun Moon of the unification church  and even Islam  all groupingboast in their numbers  as the principle basis that numbers somehow equals truth.   Yet we know their message is in no way genuine.

So the number game does not determine the message or the fruit.  Jesus had few followers at the end and yet his message and fruit was more than genuine.   Sadly it has become the principle debate that mega churches are automatically right simply because of their numbers.    We can’t go on that basis.  As scripture says Broad is the road that leads to destruction, and narrow is the road that leads to life.  The broad road is easy to find, but the narrow is so much harder to find, never mind squeeze through.

THE GOSPEL IS PREACHED FOR A VARIETY OF REASONS, SOME OF WHICH IS NOT ALWAYS OUT OF A GENUINE MOTIVE.

Phil 1: 16 The one preach Christ of contention, not sincerely, supposing to add affliction to my bonds.

Just because someone preaches a gospel message:  Appears to use all the right terminology and even makes an altar call, is no guarantee they are the genuine article.  People have preached the gospel for many reasons.  Some of which have been for reasons altogether insincere.  Many have done so because there were dollar signs attached.   Such as with the case of Marjoe Gortner who for many years went on the preaching circuit, and accumulated vast sums of wealth.   He was brought up by his parents to be the boy preacher.  Many believed on him, followed him.  He preached and prayed for the sick and could speak in tongues as good as anyone.    Yet he is on record as never ever being a true believer.  He could say all the right things and make all the right moves, but was never the genuine article.   Yet how many bought into this mans message and dare I say anointing?  Just because a man claims he is anointed, does not mean he is?  In the end he did a final preaching tour with a camera team to expose just how easy people could be deceived.  Sadly many missed the lesson!!!!

 2 Peter 2: 16 But was rebuked for his iniquity: the dumb ass speaking with man’s voice forbad the madness of the prophet

BUT WHAT IF A PERSON GETS SAVED THROUGH A FALSE TEACHER?

Balaam’s was rebuked by his ass and what the ass said was true.  Now did ass gather a following afterwards?  Just because a ass bore some fruit does not mean we should all follow the ass.  The ass may have been used once but the ass remained just an ass.    So someone may have been witness to by something someone said.  Still does not mean we follow the ass.    Plus and what makes this all the more important is the preacher is not the one who does the saving, God does.  Yet in listening to some you can’t help walk away with the thought that the preacher becomes the one who does.

There is an interesting line to point out here.  The messenger is still only the messenger.  A sign post on the road is still only a sign post, but he is never the vehicle that takes you to the end of the road.    So even if someone is convinced by an individual, like Joyce Meyers.  Joyce is not the one who saves, God alone saves the lost soul.  What many are actually pointing to is the fact that Copeland Osteen Meyers or the many others are actually doing is winning converts to themselves, rather than to the Lord.

IF NOT SAVED , THEN WHAT ARE THEY SAVED TO?

Heb 4: 2 For unto us was the gospelpreached, as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard [it].

It would seem that in some conversation with people, it becomes clear that it is not a matter that people are being saved to know the Lord, But that they are being converted to a certain individual.  What happens is that the convert instead of running after God, spends their time running after the messenger.  When the messenger falls the converts fall away.  It may not always happen,  they may come through to a genuine path and therefore to a genuine faith.  But when trust is misplaced and these pillow prophets will often package their message in such as way that they place themselves central to their message.  That people inevitable follow the individual thinking they are following God.. 

IT’S ALL IN HOW THE MESSAGE IS PACKAGED

There is great subtly in the way the prosperity message is packaged.  There is almost a two tier lever of consciousness to their message.  Yet whilst many hear one level they will embrace both.  One is a very vocal top message that’s very positive.   This message is very comfortable to embrace, health peace financial stability, divine health and how to love oneself.

There is a lot what I call mixture, where both truth and error are all blended in together and it takes almost a blowtorch to separate the two.

But the core lever of the message which drives the top message is altogether prejudice against the truth of scripture.  Both are inevitably embraced without the realisation that the core message is poison and dangerous to the soul.  I have talked with a number of Prosperity believers who would argue blind that Copeland, Hagin and others did not teach a specific aspect of their message.  Yet in the continual conversation on the subject they would begin to mimic the very thing they denied previously.  It is both curious and alarming that the individuals do not see this reality.  It takes some persuasion before even they begin to see that the truth of the falseness of these teachers is actually coming out of their own mouths.

The final level is probably the worst in this regard that they both see believe and accept that what is being taught by these people is not accord with scripture.  It is almost impossible to reach them without God.  At this level the individuals are so persuaded, and their conscience has been so seared and hardened that it almost impossible to reach.    They know what they believe and could not care that the doctrine they pursue is error. 

To put is bluntly people are being brainwashed by this heresy.  Because this message is often repeated word for word, with only minor changes people are becoming subconsciously persuaded by it. Just as people are persuaded to buy the next new product on the market, so people are being persuaded in the same way.  The constant repetition of any product is eventually picked up by some consumer, so the message if listen to on a regular basis on Books TV and tape will eventually hit its mark.

I know of another dear friend who was involved in a church that embraced this heresy many years ago.  Whilst he knows that the prosperity teaching is wrong.  He totally rejects it as heresy.  Yet there are times he comes out with something that I can tell is from the prosperity Message.  Unless you are fully aware of why how and where you can miss the subtitle of this heresy, but once you see and grasp where it is wrong it sticks out like a boulder. 

John 8: 58 Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am

John 10: 30 I and [my] Father are one. Then the Jews took up stones again to stone him. Jesus answered them, Many good works have I shewed you from my Father; for which of those works do ye stone me? The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God.

Is 9: 6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

Now Jesus makes clear his credentials as to his divinity. But can such be said of others?

LITTLE GODS AND THEIR LITTLE THEOLOGY

“EVERY MAN WHO HAS BEEN BORN AGAIN IS AN INCARNATION AND CHRISTIANITY IS A MIRACLE. THE BELIEVER IS AS MUCH AN INCARNATION AS WAS JESUS OF NAZARETH” (Kenneth Hagin, “The Incarnation,” The Word of Faith 13, December, 1980).

So Kenneth Hagin believes that he is as MUCH AN INCARNATION OF GOD AS JESUS WAS? The question is does he fulfil the requirements of one who was incarnated? Jesus made his credentials clear he was Yawah God. Now in what sense can Hagin claim to be the same Yawah God?

1 John 4: 9 In this was manifested the love of God toward us, because that God sent his only begotten Son into the world, that we might live through him

The word “ONLY,” In Greek monogenēs means unique and one of a kind. Jesus made it clear that he was in every way UNIQUE. Now some would try and quibble what Hagin may or may not have said concerning the term incarnation. But Hagin makes it clear by specifically stating that man can be exactly the same “incarnation as Jesus was”

So how does one who is unique cease to be UNIQUE ? He does not unless you are a word of Faith teacher, who believes everyone who is saved becomes an only begotten son. The sad part is they mix up the terms Born again with only begotten. Both are very different words and meaning. The unsaved can be adopted and born again; the term begotten is only applied to a son and heir to his father’s house. When Jesus was born in a manger he was begotten. Otherwise brought forth as the son of his father. That is made clear throughout the gospels.

Jesus said I am the Way the Truth and the Life and NO MAN can come to the father except by me.

Now if Hagin was truly an incarnation he might also possible have claimed to himself and say he was also the Way the Truth and the Life. But it is at this point Hagin becomes disqualified. No man can come to the Father except by Hagin? I don’t think so!!! Only By Jesus and Jesus alone.

Jesus uniqueness is Highlighted Exonerated and Affirmed in a way that even Kenneth Hagin could not possible fill

It must be remembered that this theology is more than a statement that we are gods in Gods class. It comes fully packaged with all the attributes of a god. Claiming equality with God as fellow gods. Boasting that what they confess they will possess. Claiming that Adam was equal to God. That they can do what God can do. Claiming that God was locked outside of this earth and had to get help from man to let him back in. When as Kenneth Copeland claimed that when Jesus said he was the I AM he could claim that title also. On the one hand they claim that Jesus was as the incarnation of God mere human, Yet they will elevate themselves as the incarnation divine and more than human. God is made to seem powerless whilst they are all powerful.

Hagins book “Write your own ticket with God,” sees Hagin triumph over a demon whilst Jesus stood helpless. That is all part of the theology of little gods. Yet who in their right mind would believe that any demon could triumph over the creator of the universe. The fact that Hagin used Jesus name to triumph rather than his own proved a major contradiction to his tale. If Jesus presence could not silence the demon, why should anyone believe that his name would? Hagin gave himself away. The story was fictitious!!!!!

TEMPTATION TO BECOME GODS BROUGHT DISASTER.

When that old snake in the grass decided to temp Eve with the idea that if they only bite into the fruit that came from the tree of good and evil they would become Gods with “special revelation knowledge.” knowledge that would make them as wise as God himself. Now if Adam and Eve really were gods then all Eve had to do was question and ask how can they become what they were already?

But as Eve did not make such a forthcoming statement but bite into the lie we have to presume that being gods was something they were tempted into. The result was catastrophic. Now both history and scripture has set out before us just what happens to those who begin to see themselves as little gods.

TO BOAST THAT ONE IS A GOD BRINGS JUDGEMENT

Hurricane Sandy bares down and the gods are silent

Jer 10: 11 Thus shall ye say unto them, The gods that have not made the heavens and the earth, [even] they shall perish from the earth, and from under these heavens

There lies an open judgement  and a curse upon “ALL” other gods. As there can be only one who created the heavens and the earth, this means the rest with Perish. If you believe yourself a GOD then you come under this judgement. In fact it was this verse that proved to me that the whole little gods doctrine was false.

The Emperors of Rome went mad.

Pharaoh was greatly humbled.

king Nebuchadnezzar landed up eating grass .

Herod landed up being eaten by worms.

Acts 12: 21 And upon a set day Herod, arrayed in royal apparel, sat upon his throne, and made an oration unto them. And the people gave a shout, [saying, It is] the voice of a god, and not of a man. And immediately the angel of the Lord smote him, because he gave not God the glory: and he was eaten of worms, and gave up the ghost.

Jer 50: 31- 32 Behold, I [am] against thee, [O thou] most proud , saith the Lord God of hosts: for thy day is come, the time [that] I will visit thee. And the most proud shall stumble and fall, and none shall raise him up: and I will kindle a fire in his cities, and it shall devour all round about him.

WHERE ARE THE GODS THAT BOAST OF THEIR DIVINITY?

Jer 2: 28 But where [are] thy gods that thou hast made thee? let them arise, if they can save thee in the time of thy trouble: for [according to] the number of thy cities are thy gods, O Judah

Jer 11: 12 Then shall the cities of Judah and inhabitants of Jerusalem go, and cry unto the gods unto whom they offer incense: but they shall not save them at all in the time of their trouble

Where were these little gods when hurricane Sandy brought devastation to the city of New York? They stood helpless. All the confessions, boasting and decrees went unheeded? Where where they as buildings collapsed and floods poured across the flood defences and flooded underground terminals? Where were they? What will they use for an excuse? Is it any wonder that angels look on in amazement at such pride and boasting. yet will they be humbled and repentant ?

Strange things happen to those who perpetuate this myth!

Deut 8: 3 And he humbled thee, and suffered thee to hunger, and fed thee with manna, which thou knewest not, neither did thy fathers know; that he might make thee know that man doth not live by bread only, but by every [word] that proceedeth out of the mouth of the LORD doth man live

We don’t live by every word that comes out of our mouth, but by every word he speaks.

QUALIFICATION OF ONE WHO IS A GOD?

John 1: 1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God

Where was Hagin when this happened?

John 1: 3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made

Can this be said of Kenneth Hagin?

John 1: 4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men

John 1: 14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth

Now in just these simple statements does Hagin fulfil any of them? If not how then can he claim to be the same incarnation of God? The word alone means God became man, It does not mean Man can become God. So Hagin had to be God before he became man. In which case the trinity becomes more than a triune being. Many simply do not grasp that when men like Hagin describe themselves with the title as INCARNATION. They are not just saying they are a god, but they are part of the GODHEAD. Father Son holy spirit and Kenneth Hagin. To say the least this is blasphemy..

God commanded angels to worship Jesus >>> Does that mean angels should worship Hagin as well

Jesus had no beginning >>>> Hagin had a beginning

Jesus has no end of days >>>> Hagin died

Jesus was creator and sustainer of the universe>>>> Hagin could not even sustain his own life ,

Jesus was the only Begotten Son >>>> Hagin life was anything but unique.

Jesus had no sin >>>> Hagin was born and shapen in iniquity

Jesus had no mother or father >>>> Hagin had both a mother and Father.

Jesus knew what was in all men >>> I doubt If Hagin knew what was in his own heart.

Jesus still raised the dead , made the blind to see and ceased the storms. >>>>>Hagin failed that part as well. His own son in Law buddy Harris died of cancer. No healing and sadly no resurrection either.

Jesus remains our great high priests. >>>> Hagin can’t even fulfil that job requirement,

Jesus is our judge >>>>> Hagin was judged

Jesus gives life >>>> Hagin had no life to give He died

Jesus rose from the dead >>>> Hagin bones remain in his coffin.

Jesus rose himself from the dead >>>> Hagin could not even keep himself alive.

Jesus sent the Holy Spirit >>>> Hagin too late the Holy Spirit has already come

Holy Spirit came in Jesus name >>>> He does not come in Hagin’s name.

Holy spirit will reveal Jesus >>>> He did not come to reveal Hagin

Holy Spirit leads to the truth >>> Hagin followed the father of lies.

Holy Spirit motivates people to realise their sin and repent from it. >>> How can Hagin be a God when he was born a sinner.

God exists from eternity to eternity >>>> God was not made but exist outside of time. Hagin died period his time was up.

So when Hagin says he was as much an incarnation of God as Jesus was, he simply can not fulfill the job description.

THE ONLY PERSON TO FULFIL THESE SHOES AS THE TRUE INCARNATION OF GOD IS JESUS. THE REST IS SIMPLY MAKE BELIEVE AND FANTASY.

UCMINISTRIES :  The following is a testimony of someone who was in the Word of faith movement and saw things from the inside.  His concerns eventually drew him out of this movement.  The testimony is not mine and therefore I can’t take credit for it.   Please read this testimony with an open mind and aSk yourself what really did go on with Kenneth Hagin?

AFTER I RETURNED HOME FROM MICHIGAN, MY DOUBTS ABOUT KENNETH HAGIN, HIS TEACHINGS, AND HIS VISIONS BEGAN TO SWIRL AROUND IN MY HEAD LIKE A HURRICANE. I ALREADY HAVE A TOUCH OF OBSESSIVE, COMPULSIVE BEHAVIOR CONCERNING RELIGION, SO AS YOU CAN IMAGINE, THESE DOUBTS REALLY GOT A HOLD OF ME.

FIRST, LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT A STRANGE EXPERIENCE THAT I HAD SHORTLY AFTER WE HAD BOUGHT THE CHURCH PROPERTY AND MOVED OUR OFFICES INTO THE GUEST HOUSE. I HAD BEEN SURFING THE WEB, LOOKING UP KENNETH HAGIN ON GOOGLE, AS I FREQUENTLY DID. I WAS ALWAYS LOOKING FOR NEW SERMONS, STORIES OR BITS OF INFORMATION ABOUT HIM.

NOW ANYONE THAT HAS EVER GOOGLED KENNETH HAGIN WILL FIND OUT IN A HURRY THAT THERE ARE LITERALLY HUNDREDS OF BLOGS, WEB SITES, VIDEOS, YOU TUBES AND SUCH THAT ATTACK HIM AND HIS TEACHING, BOTH PERSONALLY AND PROFESSIONALLY. THESE ARTICLES HAD ALWAYS GREATLY BOTHERED ME AND I WOULD ALWAYS TRY TO AVOID THEM. BUT ONE AFTERNOON I STARTED READING THEM.

I GOT A SICK, TWISTED, AWFUL FEELING IN MY STOMACH. I BECAME UPSET. ALL OF THESE THEOLOGIANS, EXPERTS, WRITERS, MINISTERS AND FORMER WORD OF FAITH PEOPLE WERE SHOOTING ALL KINDS OF HOLES IN BOTH HAGIN’S TEACHINGS AND TESTIMONIES. THIS REALLY BOTHERED ME. MOST EVERYTHING THAT I BELIEVED ABOUT GOD AND THE BIBLE HAD BEEN INFLUENCED BY KENNETH HAGINS TEACHINGS.

THEN SUDDENLY A THOUGHT FLASHED THROUGH MY MIND: “ONE DAY YOU WILL ATTACK KENNETH HAGIN’S TEACHING MORE THAN ANY OF THESE PEOPLE ON THE INTERNET”. OF COURSE I DISMISSED THIS AS THE DEVIL. BUT I REMEMBERED IT. IT SCARED ME. WAS IT THE VOICE OF GOD? WAS IT MY CONFUSION SPEAKING? MY SUBCONSCIOUS? I HAVE NO IDEA!

I BEGAN TO ASK GOD TO OPEN MY EYES IF I WAS IN DECEPTION. WAS KENNETH HAGIN A TRUE PROPHET OF GOD? DID HE REALLY MEET JESUS FACE TO FACE IN EIGHT SEPERATE TEACHING VISIONS? DID KENNETH HAGIN REALLY VISIT JESUS UP IN FRONT OF THE THRONE ROOM OF GOD ALMIGHTY? DID JESUS CHRIST REALLY LAY HIS HANDS ON KENNETH HAGIN TO GIVE HIM A SPECIAL HEALING ANOINTING? DOD ANGELS REALLY APPEAR TO HIM? HAD KENNETH HAGIN REALLY HEARD THE AUDIBLE VOICE OF GOD ON NUMEROUS OCCASIONS?

HAD I EVER SEEN KENNETH HAGIN HEAL ANYONE? HAD I EVER SEEN HIM PREFORM A REAL MIRACLE? KENNETH HAGIN HAD ALWAYS TESTIFIED THAT HE HAD BEEN BORN WITH A DEFORMED HEART AND A RARE INCURABLE BLOOD DISEASE, AND THAT HE WAS HEALED BY ACTING ON MARK 11:24 AFTER BEING TAUGHT HOW TO OPERATE IN FAITH BY JESUS CHRIST HIMSELF. BUT HAD I EVER EVEN HEARD OF THE TRUE DIAGNOSIS AND NAME OF THE DISEASE?

HAD I EVER SEEN MEDICAL REPORTS OR DOCTORS TESTIMONY ABOUT THIS HEALING MIRACLE? WHAT WAS THE NAME OF THE BLOOD DISEASE? HE HAD SAID THAT HIS BLOOD WAS WATERY AND ORANGE. WHAT WAS WRONG WITH HIM? HAD I EVER HEARD ANY EYE WITNESSES TESTIFY TO THIS MIRACLE? ANY DOCTORS? ANY PUBLISHED MEDICAL DOCUMENTATION? NO!

WHAT ABOUT THE PLAGIARISM CHARGES AND DENIALS? IT WAS AND IS A KNOWN FACT THAT KENNETH HAGIN PLAGIARIZED THE NEW AGE WRITINGS OF EW KENYON AND CLAIMED TO HAVE RECEIVED THEM FROM THE SPIRIT OF GOD. I KNOW THAT HE WAS SUED BY KENYON’S DAUGHTER OVER THIS, AND THAT THEY SETTLED OUT OF COURT, BUT WHY DID HAGIN NEVER CLEAR THIS UP PUBLICLY? I HAD SEEN THE SIDE BY SIDE EVIDENCE MANY TIMES. HAD KENNETH HAGIN OUT RIGHT LIED?

WHAT ABOUT KENNETH HAGIN’S CLAIMS TO HAVE WALKED IN DIVINE HEALTH AND NEVER BEING SICK? I HAD A FRIEND THAT WAS A PHARMACY TECH AT ST. FRANCIS HOSPITAL IN TUKLSA, THAT WAS ALSO A FELLOW RHEMA GRAD. HE TOLD ME THAT HE HAD FILLED KENNETH HAGIN’S HEART MEDICINE FOR YEARS AT THE PHARMACY. SO, WAS KENNETH HAGIN BEING MISLEADING IN HIS TEACHING ABOUT WALKING IN DIVINE HEALTH?

I KNOW FOR A FACT THAT KENNETH HAGIN’S WIFE WAS TREATED FOR CANCER FOR YEARS. WHY DIDN’T THAT SPECIAL HEALING ANOINTING WORK FOR HER? WHY HAD I NOT SEEN ANY HEALINGS AND MIRACLES IN ANY OF THE HUNDREDS OF SERVICES AND CLASSES THAT I ATTENDED FOR FOURTEEN YEARS? WHY WOULDN’T KENNETH HAGIN TALK TO ME AND CONI AFTER OUR DAUGHTER JENNIFER DIED OF A BRAIN TUMOR? WHY DID SO MANY CLOSE ASSOCIATES AND FAMILY MEMBERS OF KENNETH HAGIN GOT CANCER AND DIE JUST LIKE REGUALR FOLKS IF HAGIN HAD THIS SPECIAL ANOINTING?

THE QUESTIONS WERE SWIRLING, I COULD NOT SLEEP, AND NO ONE AT RHEMA WOULD ANSWER MY QUESTIONS.

Jer 17: 5 Thus saith the LORD; Cursed [be] the man that trusteth in man, and maketh flesh his arm, and whose heart departeth from the LORD

2Cr 1:9 But we had the sentence of death in ourselves, that we should not trust in ourselves, but in God which raiseth the dead:

Yet is this the confession of the Word of Faith teachers?

We (the church) are Christ. (Kenneth Hagin, As Christ is — So are we, Tape #44H06)

The Christian “is as much an incarnation as was Jesus of Nazareth.” (Kenneth Hagin, “The Incarnation,” THE WORD OF FAITH (Dec. 1980), 14.)

“Man is a spirit who possesses a soul and lives in a body…., He is in the same class with God. …We know that God is a Spirit. And yet [He] took upon Himself a man’s body….when God took upon Himself human form, He was no less God than when He didn’t have a body. Man, at physical death, leaves his as he was when he had his body.” (Kenneth Hagin, Man of Three Dimensions [Tulsa: Faith Library, 1973]

“[Man] was created on terms of equality with God, and he could stand in God’s presence without any consciousness of inferiority…God made us as much like Himself as possible…He made us the same class of being that He is Himself…Man lived in the realm of God. He lived on terms equal with God…[The] believer is called Christ…That’s who we are; we’re Christ” (Kenneth Hagin, Zoe: The God-Kind of Life, 1989. pp. 35-36, 41)

One of the major problems that word of faith believers have to cope with is the need to keep trying to reassure themselves that they are gods.. That means having to try to live up to an elevated level of a god. Whose heights are so high, and the air so thin that they almost fall over with the sheer magnitude of their boasting.

Now to be fed a daily dose like the above teachings that one can be in the very same class as God. He can do what God does; speak as God does, use the same faith as God does, Create as God does. God himself is more like us. It all becomes a heavy opium of positive emotions that few can resist, a positivity that is centered around oneself and specifically on ones confession. But the need to keep bolstering this image has to be a daily battle.

In The Force of Love, another sermon tape, Kenneth Copeland states, “You don’t have a god in you, you are one.“

Earl Paulk of the Harvester Church in Atlanta, Georgia, in his work, Satan Unmasked, explains it like this: “Adam and Eve were placed in the world as the seed and expression of God. Just as dogs have puppies and cats have kittens, so God has little gods; we have trouble comprehending this truth. Until we comprehend that we are little gods, we cannot manifest the kingdom of God” (p. 97).

Cats and dogs may reproduce, but God did not copulate in order to create man. Such foolishness is astounding.

In his book Agony of Deceit, Michael Horton has documented Kenneth Copeland in a 19 July 1987 crusade as saying, “I say this and repeat it so it don’t upset you too bad. When I read in the Bible where He (Jesus ) says, I AM, I say, Yes, I am too!” (p. 268). In John 8:58, I AM is a self proclamation of Jesus own unique Deity from Exodus 3:14, 15.

Few however realize the sheer magnitude and consequences to such teaching, never mind the effect it has on people’s minds. These teachers then live on a constant high that leads them to believe that they have something the rest of us poor lowly creatures don’t. They become full of stinking pride that’s boasts in their position and revelation. If you cant see your own godhead tough luck. They have ascended the height and now dwell in the place of the most high. They have arrived at a revelation where even God himself must submit to their confessions. Their confessions become God. It rules over their universes and they are the gods within that universe. They then have to see themselves as RICH HEALTHY PROSPEROUS and SUCCESSFUL. Never mind the fact that they could be BROKE ILL and anything BUT PROSPEROUS. It does not matter, mind over matter; confession over reality; What they speak forth must become reality.

Living in a world they think has to bow to their confessions. Pride overwhelms them and they can’t be told. That would be embracing a negative confession. The battlefield becomes an issue of negative over the positive. They don’t see that the real issue is truth and error. Sometimes truth can be negative and error seen as positive. That does not matter, being equal to God does. They are towering above the rest of humanity and God help anyone who does not see the world as they do.

Rev 3: 17 Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked:

They boasted a positive confession but the reality was so very different.

Scripture reveals their true reality: POOR WRETCHED AND BLIND.

Rev 3: 18-19 I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and [that] the shame of thy nakedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.

How many of these prosperity teachers would relate such negative statements as this apostle has?. It was not in their confession or even in their goods, but in their relationship with God. You can be poor materially but still be rich in the things of God,

1 Cor 4: 11-13 Even unto this present hour we both hunger, and thirst, and are naked, and are buffeted, and have no certain dwelling place. And labour, working with our own hands: being reviled, we bless; being persecuted, we suffer it: Being defamed, we intreat: we are made as the filth of the world, [and are] the off scouring of all things unto this day.

Can we see any of the Word of faith teachers today relate to such a testimony? It’s hard to see oneself as a god when one is poor, imprisoned hungry and thirsty.

In the end if they take their confession to its obvious conclusions they are left with a superstitious belief where a negative confession has to be immediately replaced by a positive one. As the tongue is such an unruly member a confession blurted out in the heat of the moment is still a confession. Negative confessions may bring sickness and even death. But a positive one will acquire for them all that THEY WANT. It is not a matter of surrendering one’s life to God but that creation has to surrender to them. The focus becomes self rather than God.

In the end fear becomes the solitary agreement that a negative confession might lead them to their undoing. So they are forever watching what they say lest the power in their tongues brings them to their own destruction.

God has made it clear HE WILL NOT SHARE HIS GLORY WITH ANOTHER.

He stands unique and alone as the ONE TRUE GOD. He will have no rivals, no competition. Kingdoms may come and go, but his will stand forever. Men will live and die but he cannot. Men can boast of their achievements but God alone brings all his plans to success. A life is but for a moment But God alone is immortal and eternal. Men may place their faith in themselves but the arm of the flesh will fail them.

Humility is the enemy of such teachers. The stark reminder that our faith must forever rest in Gods will. It is not in the heavy heights we find God but on our knees in humility and the realization that we cannot, but he can. The stark reality not my will be done but his.

James 4: 10 humble yourselves in the sight of the Lord, and he shall lift you up

It does not say lift yourself up!!!!

Here is an interesting quote from another article that I had to quote from. I cannot underestimate the dangers of this philosophy. It’s well worth reading the whole article to capture what the writer sharing.

“Faith in Doctrines of Demons (1 Timothy 4:1-5) leads to Fear and Death!
Guilt is generally brought about by the tension generated when one was positively confessing but getting no results. According to the Word-Faith position, no results equals lack of faith or open sin in one’s life. This can, and usually does, cause excessive introspection and a tremendous guilt feelings. Sometimes the guilt is real and needs to be dealt with, but often there is no reason for the feelings. Whatever the person was positively confessing was not in God’s plan and He is not going to bring it about.

Fear comes from two areas. First is the obsessive compulsion to be positive in every word. Even using phrases such as “I’m just dying to do that” or “that joke just tickled me to death,” release satanic powers, say the Word-Faith teachers (The Tongue – A Creative Force, p. 90-92). People become afraid that they are going to slip up, utter a negative word, and give a place to Satan. Secondly, fear is a corollary to the guilt mentioned above. Fear and guilt usually work in a downward spiral. One feels guilty because of supposed lack of faith, then afraid because the confession is not “working.” Then there is more guilt, then more fear, and so on down into further despair. This cycle can be extremely spiritually and physically debilitating. All of these spiritual and psychological difficulties can be directly attributed to elevating man to the false position of being a god and saying that he has powers far greater than he really does.” Source http://watchmanforjesus.blogspot.co.uk/2010/02/truth-and-danger-about-word-faith.html

The writer is absolutely correct in his observation.

One more recent worshiper of the faith teachings had this to say :

God had become a man,and ceases to be God. Jesus was a man,and the Bible says that God became a man and ceases to become God, for He,who is God left His powers and set aside His status and Being as God. Jesus was 100% human.

The ramification is that if God ceased to be God then he is no longer God. Gods immutability is called into question. Yet at the same time the Word of faith teaches exalt themselves as gods, elevating man whilst denigrating God. They blur the distinction between the two. However history has always shown that men who come to proclaim their own deity begin to come under the judgement of God. Pharaoh and even the emperor of Rome were often smitten with such delusions and we know how they ended up.

Jer 17: 5 Thus saith the LORD; Cursed [be] the man that trusteth in man, and maketh flesh his arm, and whose heart departeth from the LORD

When men place their faith in their faith rather than in the God of their faith they are destined to fail. Man can no more save himself by their confessions than raise the titanic in its original condition. It’s not a matter of not seeing the truth but their pride stops them wanting to see the truth.

Some have tried to take this teaching to its obvious conclusion and suffered humiliation and defeat. Nor was it a lack of faith in their part. It was only where they tried to place their faith that was the problem. Their stubbornness and unwillingness to see that the fruit was rotten led to countless sufferings and death.

The name of DR HOBART FREEMAN will live on in infamy. He was a Word of Faith teacher & pastor of Faith Assembly – over 90 people died in his church following his teaching and then Hobart died due to a medically treatable disease.

Many of those who came out of this experience have been emotionally traumatized..

THE EVENTUAL REALIZATION THAT WHAT THEY CONFESS THEY DON’T POSSESS!!!

We have seen enough evidence to conclude that the Word-Faith message is a dangerous soul-destroying heresy that simply does not work. It is a body of presumptuous teachings that lacks the authority of the Word of God. It is a system of thinking that has been generated by a group of men drawing from each others teachings with an amalgamation of Christian theology, mysticism and Gnosticism bound together by one of the most fanciful methods of Scripture interpretation ever devised. All of this is buttressed by a mutual admiration society among the most popular of the Word-Faith teachers that admonishes critics to “touch not the Lord’s anointed,” often under dire threats of divine displeasure.

The Watchman Ministry has coined this heresy very well, because it is SOUL DESTROYING.

If you want to read some testimonies by people who have come out of this teaching press

Recently News has spread that Todd Bentley was in Britain preaching.  It took me a little while to track down what church in Wales he was visiting.  Now we have thanks to Todd Bentley own face book site.  The church was pastor by Robert and Helen King  and is called TWO LOCKS CHURCH.

The church advertises itself :

Two Locks Church is Independent, Christ-centred, Bible-based, and charismatic. Every Sunday we have people from all different walks of life and of different nationalities meeting in harmony to celebrate Christ and his Kingdom.

One of the main feature along with a puppet ministry is a “TACF Soaking Centre.

Mr and Mrs King with Mr and Mrs Bentley

SOAKING  Is just a christianised form of  Transcendental Meditation, which is also popular with the Todd Bentley.

Affiliations & links: Evangelical Alliance, Toronto Airport Christian Fellowship .  (This description just about says it all.)

On its blog where some of the pastors teaching Robert makes this statement:

God has given us His faith, you either have it or you don’t and when we become disciples of Him He gives us His faith.  There is never a day when we are faithless as the faith He put on the inside of us doesn’t come and go! We can step out in faith every day, it’s not about how we feel, it’s about what He has given us…..  This is not about ‘my faith’ it’s about ‘His faith’ living in me….For we walk by faith, not by sight. 2 Corinthians 5:7 (NKJV)

Is a Christian’s faith always alive?  James 2:17 Thus also faith by itself, if it does not have works, is dead. (NKJV)  In other words, it doesn’t do anything if we don’t use it!  Jesus said, ‘You will lay hands on the sick and they will recover!’ But if we don’t lay hands on the sick then nothing will happen!  

Confess this truth out loud now, ‘He’s given me His faith and His faith works’”

 The terminology of receiving “Gods faith” is usually reminiscent of word of Faith teachings so common with Kenneth Hagin .    God himself does not need faith.  As faith means trusting in someone, who is God going to put his trust in?  God can impart faith to the believer to help us have faith in God, but God himself does not need faith.  Then there is the confessing “this truth” Also very reminiscent of Word of Faith.  Where those who confess believe they will possess.  In the end it is not God they put their trust in but the words they confess.   By making and speaking the right words you will create your own reality.  However that is nothing more than New Age witchcraft.  Words spoken in the right way is nothing more than reciting a spell. 

It has been my understanding that Todd has been gravitating towards Kenneth Hagin’s  Occult teachings for some time.  This has now been proven by his latest teaching called:

THE POWER OF PROPHETIC DECREES

As you read a part of Todd’s Article, you will soon notice that it’s full of typical buzz words which the prosperity teachers are noted for.

This is a two-part teaching entitled, The Power of Prophetic Decrees. Part 1 will help you understand why God gives us prophetic words, visions, and revelations, and examines and uncovers those things that hinder the fulfillment of God’s prophetic word in our lives. Many are missing the mark of their calling, and the words that have come to us from God remain unfulfilled. Next week’s Part 2 teaching will continue with the quest for success in appropriating what God has promised us. We’ll learn how to war for our words, and how we can effectively shoot prophetic arrows into the heavens to “scatter the demonic cohorts.”

How many prophetic promises and words spoken over your life have you yet to see birthed? Every believer has prophetic promises from heaven whether God has revealed something that we would accomplish for Him, something that we would become, or something that we would see Him do in our lifetime. Prophetic words are authoritative words that Scripture says we would “do well to pay attention to” (2 Peter 1:19).

Countless believers have waited years to realize the fulfillment of prophetic words spoken over them, or revelations from visions or dreams. Do you ever wonder what to do with them, how to act upon them, or how to ensure the fulfillment of them in your life or ministry? How do we bring the words of the Lord to pass? What hinders the fulfillment of them?

Recently, the Lord showed me that through our prophetic decrees, He also releases angels to battle the forces of the enemy to bring us what is rightfully ours! That’s part of their job description!

I hope to give some insight in this teaching on how you can make prophetic decrees and proclamations into the heavens, which will hasten and bring to pass the Word of the Lord. I want you to understand your responsibility with God-given promises and visions and how you can partner with God to realize your destiny.

Prophetic words and promises are personal, specific to our lives as individuals, our families, or our ministries. They may also be intended for cities, regions, peoples, and nations. They are always in line with the Word, the Bible right from Genesis through to Revelation. However, I want to focus primarily on those words that God has given to us personally, those rhema words. Rhema words and God’s Word are a powerful combination that can activate our divine destiny

>>>IT’S OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO BIRTH HIS WORD<<<<

>>>LET IT BE TO ME ACCORDING TO YOUR WORD<<<<

Know your authority, and be vigilant. Even Mary understood this principle regarding prophetic words. After her prophetic word from the angel she responded and prophetically decreed, “Let it be to me according to your word” (Luke 1:38). She lined herself up with the Word from heaven, pulled it out of the spiritual realm into existence, and birthed it.

In Him Todd Bentley Fresh Fire USA

The major flaw with Kenneth Hagin was his teachings on THE RHEMA WORD.  Like many false teachers who want to introduce extra Biblical teachings he had to separate the Bible (logos) written word for the NEW PROPHETIC WORD of Kenneth Hagin.  Thus he elevated the word  Rhema and with it his teachings above the Bible.  Thus the bible itself was judged according to his revelation and not the other way round.   

For a Further study on the RHEMA  and how the New testament writers used  them  click here. or go over to my Box account and scroll down until you see the article on the truth about the rhema  word.

What many do not realise is that Rhema and Logos where used interchangeable throughout the New Testament and applied to both the written and spoken word of God.  The New Testament writers did not make any separation in how both those words were used. 

For many who feel the need to go around making decrees or a Positive confession about their healings.  There are plenty of grave yards full of people who confessed but never possessed.  But the saddest part was the lies they told in confessing their healings when they were never healed. 

It looks like both Todd Bentley and Two Locks Church have a lot more of a connection than just being charismatic. We must also remind ourselves that despite all his bold confession of prophetic decrees his own marriage failed.  I suspect he had no intention of saving it either.  What we must remember is that Todd Bentley is a blatant adulterer and now parades his adultery everywhere he goes

Churches are NOW  supposed to look the other way and say AMEN and BLESS YOU!!!!.  It only shows how far the church has slipped and prostituted itself.  Any Pastor with an ounce of integrity would send this pimp packing.   The sad state of the charismatic movement today is the ever-growing desperation for signs and wonder.  Such is the desperation that just about anything and everything is tolerated.   I fear that this desperation will set many up for an end time deception.  The Bible clearly warns us and yet today many ignore that warning at their own peril.  This drive for signs and wonders has become nothing more than an addiction, and men like Bentley feed it.   Like all addictions eventually people will not bother where they get their highs from, so long as they get their weekly fix

There may be some who will say  “ But he has repented “ ,  but I would say how did he show his repentance?

Go back to his wife and ask forgiveness?  NO.   He simply carried on with his adultery, divorced his wife and married his mistress.  That’s not repentance.  To repent is to change direction.  Todd never changed direction.  In the end he got exactly what he wanted.   Repentance is more than simply saying sorry and carrying on regardless.  What many saw with Todd and Rick Joyner famous video chats was nothing more than a sham of a show piece.  Far too many people had invested too much money, time and predictions to simply let Todd simply disappear from the scene.

The one thing we can be certain of is that those who desire to get into bed with the Todd Bentley’s of this world is that they  have no love for the truth,  and no love  for God,

2 Tim 4: 20 Erastus abode at Corinth: but Trophimus have I left at Miletum sick

Praying for the sick has always been part of Christian ministry.  It is both Biblical and normal.  As a Christian I can affirm that God can and does answer the prayer of the sick.  So this article is not based on some anti healing stance.  But it is the acknowledgement that as Christians we do need far more wisdom and practical common sense when praying for the sick.

James 5: 15  And the prayer of faith shall save the sick, and the Lord shall raise him up; and if he have committed sins, they shall be forgiven him

So while praying for the sick is encouraged, not even the apostle Paul could heal on demand. 

This article drew my attention recently, especially considering who the pastor of this movement is.  So once again the whole controversy of healing has cropped up.

At least six people have died in Britain after being told that they had been healed of HIV, and could stop taking their medication.

There is evidence that evangelical churches in London, Manchester, Birmingham and Glasgow are claiming to cure HIV through God.

We sent three undercover reporters into the Synagogue Church of All Nations (SCOAN) , which is based in Southwark, south London.

All of them told the pastors that they were HIV positive. All were told that they could be healed.

Once a month the church has a prayer line, where people from across Europe come to be cured of all kinds of illness.

At registration they have to hand over a doctor’s letter as evidence of their condition

They are filmed giving before and after testimonies, which are put on SCOAN’s website.

The healing process involves the pastor shouting, over the person being healed, for the devil to come out of their body, and spraying water in their face.

One of the pastors, Rachel Holmes, told our reporter, Shatila, who is a genuine HIV sufferer, they had a 100% success rate.

“We have many people that contract HIV. All are healed.”

She said if symptoms such as vomiting or diarrhoea persist, it is actually a sign of the virus leaving the body.

“We’ve had people come back before saying ‘Oh I’m not healed. The diarrhoea I had when I had HIV, I’ve got it again.’ I have to stop them and say ‘no, please, you are free.'”

SCOAN told our reporters they would be able to discard their medication after their healing and that they would be free to start a family.

Former health secretary Lord Fowler, who led the HIV/Aids awareness drive in the 1980s, says this message is dangerous.

“It is foolish advice and it is tragic advice because the consequences of this kind of advice can only be that people pass on HIV and can only be seriously bad for the individual concerned – including death.”

Medical professionals have told Sky News of at least six patients who have died after being told by various churches to stop taking their HIV tablets.

Emmanuel came off his medication a year ago, on the instructions of a pastor at his church in North London.

“He told me I’d been healed: ‘You’ve got to stop taking the medicine now. I’ll keep praying for you. Once God forgives you then the disease will definitely go.'”

Emmanuel admits he suspects he may have passed his HIV onto his boyfriend.

“Yeah, I think I’ve passed it on. He got ill. Physically he’s lost some bit of weight. He’s very small. I think he’s worried… Yeah I feel guilty, if I’m the one who passed it onto him I’m feeling guilty. Yeah very much guilty.”

The Synagogue Church of All Nations is wealthy. It has branches across the globe and its own TV channel.

On its website it promotes its anointing water, which is used during the healing, and it also makes money from merchandise, such as DVDs, CDs and books.

Church members are expected to give regular donations.

It is also a registered UK charity. The Charity Commission is looking at our findings.

The Department of Health says it is very concerned: “Our advice is clear that faith and prayer are not a substitute for any form of treatment, especially for HIV treatment.”

Sky News asked the church for its response to our investigation. Here is its statement:

“We are not the Healer; God is the Healer. Never a sickness God cannot heal. Never a disease God cannot cure. Never a burden God cannot bear. Never a problem God cannot solve.

“To His power, nothing is impossible. We have not done anything to bring about healing, deliverance or prosperity. If somebody is healed, it is God who heals.

“We must have a genuine desire if we come to God. We are not in position to question anybody’s genuine desire. Only God knows if one comes with true desire. Only God can determine this.

“That is why, if anybody comes in the name of God, we pray for them. The outcome of the prayer will determine if they come genuinely or not

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/churches-told-dying-patients-were-cured-034935993.html

 IT IS NOT A SIN TO SEEK VERIFICATION OF A HEALING!

SCOAN’s or The Synagogue, Church Of All Nations is pastored by T.B.Joshua Whose church is situated in Nigeria.    Both the Pastor and the church have had a cloud of controversy hanging over it for some time.  Maybe the worst part is that many are learning their trade from TV evangelist, Building mega churches, coupled with big claims, an over the top positive messages and money making schemes.

However the idea that one must prove ones faith by giving up the medication as some act of faith has been disastrous.  There are countless grave yards filled by people who claimed healing or were told they were healed; persuaded that they no longer needed life saving medication; Only to die of the disease they were told they were cured of.   This has done nothing but brought reproach to the name of Jesus and the work of the gospel.  The fact that people have been healed via prayed should never be in doubt.  However wisdom also demands that verification should not be seen as a lack of faith.  Medication should never be stopped until ones healing are verified.  God is as much in the skill of the hands of a surgeon as he is in healing a wrecked body.  God is not embarrassed by someone confirming their healing.  Even Jesus told the people he cured to go to the priests.  Like many faith healers when the healing does not occur they blame everyone except themselves.  The excuses range from you lacked faith, or its Gods responsibility.  Or the symptoms are really the devil trying to put that sickness back on you.  So everyone else’s fault but their own.

Every so often a church or ministry pops up about healing services.   Often wild claims of healing are boasted.  Sadly few can be authenticated and far too many are exposed as fraud.   God is not glorified by lies or deception.  Today the techniques used to implement many of these healing services are recognized.  The hype and anticipation of a service; the type of music used; the long period of repetitive style of music which dulls the sensitivity.  The style of preaching that almost guarantees miracles will happen.  All can become part of the drama that can lure the average person into believing something has happened, when nothing has changed.

The sad and sordid story of ministries who have been based on healing has been both tragic and scandalous.

Those who were unable to bring healing to themselves.

John Osteen, Word of Faith mega-church pastor in Houston – his wife, Dodie got liver cancer and through the mercy of God and medical attention survived.

Frederick K. Price, Word of Faith mega-church pastor in Los Angeles – his wife, Betty got cancer and was medically treated (chemo-therapy) and by the mercy of God was patched up.

Jamie Buckingham, Discipleship Movement & charismatic author – died of cancer. Jamies too was under a medical doctors care.

Charles Capps, Word of Faith teacher, teaches power of our words to create reality – his wife got cancer and was medically treated.

John Wimber, Signs & Wonders Movement, author of “Power Healing,” –  died from cancer. He too, was medically treated – no “power” healing for him, only chemo-therapy.

Mack Timberlake, Word of Faith pastor – suffering from throat cancer, getting medical attention.

R.W. Schambach, Faith Healer – got a quadruple heart bypass (from a real live human doctor)

Dr. Hobart Freeman, Word of Faith teacher & pastor of Faith Assembly – over 90 people died in his church following his teaching and then Hobart died due to a medically treatable disease.

Prophet Keith Grayton, Prophetic Movement – died of the complications of AIDS
He spoke at our Church in Detroit, and declared he was totally healed. He died a year or so later.

Kenneth Hagin, “father” of the Word of Faith Movement – sister died of cancer, (he wears glasses) Hagin’s great faith and special anointing could not keep her on the planet. Hagin  recently died in a “cardiac intensive care unit from the very condition he claimed he was healed from.

Katherine Khulman – an acknowledged divine healer DIED from heart disease in Ann Arbor Michigan.
A.A. Allen – an acknowledged divine healer and exorcist DIED from alcohol & drug abuse.

Aimee Semple McPherson – an acknowledge divine healer – died of a barbituate overdose. Why was she taking pills in the first place? Wasn’t the “peace” of God enough for her?

Jack Coe – an acknowledged divine healer DIED from disease.

Lonnie Frisbee -Died from AIDS in 1993,

Todd Bentley – Despite his many claims he was unable to heal his marriage.  One particular cancer patient who was kneed in the groin by Todd was later to have died from his illness.

Benny Hinn –  Has also been seen wearing glasses. Sadly he too was unable to save his marriage.

 Almost all of these ministries in one form or another were based around the same principle of confession, naming and claiming. The basic premise that God is bound by what we do and say.

 Some went so far as to reject medicine, doctors and treatment because it was a sign of lack of faith.  Some who had not received their healing on cue simply lied and went about telling people they were healed when no such healing had taken place. Others spend quite a bit of time running back and forth, from one healing minister to another to acquire that all important healing.  When the one person they should be talking it over with is never consulted.

What is needed is to learn from these men’s failure, and make a real difference as to how we conduct healing services.

Healing is based not on mans failure but in God faithfulness.

 Practical wisdom was all that was needed.  True faith in God rests the matter with God.

No minister should make a promise , if he is not the one to provide the cure.

No minister should ever tell anyone to give up medication until the healing has been proven.

No minister should make excuses for lack of results.

No minister needs to see himself or God in conflict with the medical establishment.

All ministers must recognise that healing comes in Gods time and not ours.  If a surgeon heavenly or earthly is Gods chosen hand, then we must be prepared to say Amen to it.

It must also be recognised that God does not heal on cue.  He is no mans debtor nor any mans servant.

Healing is not prime time TV.

Kenneth Hagin took what was an obscure Greek word and turned it into an idol.  Many within the Pentecostal movement then went and bowed down before this idol,    Hundreds were decieved by this man.  Only God knows the eternal consequences for Kenneth Hagin and the many who have chosen to follow this man.

EVOLUTION OF GNOSTISIM

The concept of the “rhema” became the flagship of Hagins doctrines.  Just about everything was built on this.  Today we can have Rhema FM radio, Rhema ranch, Rhema Theatre Company a rhema Basketball team, and rhema churches with rhema boys and girls clubs.

The famous saying spoken by many is that “God has a rhema word for you

BY DEFINITION:  THE RHEMA IS A SPECIFIC WORD FROM GOD TO A SPECIFIC PERSON AT A SPECIFIC TIME.  If we keep this in mind when looking at the evidence which I will present, we will see this definition does not hold true. Others make a clear difference in so far as rhema is specifically that which is spoken, while logos are purely the written word of God.  Again keep this in mind as we proceed.

Acts 16:6-7 is presented as an example of this case.

Now when they had gone throughout Phrygia and the region of Galatia, and were forbidden of the Holy Ghost to preach the word (logos) in Asia, After they were come to Mysia, they assayed to go into Bithynia: but the Spirit suffered them not

(a)The Holy Spirit forbid Paul and his companions to enter Asia.  This would be seen as the rhema word (Specific to Paul) and yet it is not rhema that gets used but LOGOS.  Notice also that it was spoken by the Holy Spirit and not written.

(b)The great commission to preach the gospel was still relevant to all.  So this would be seen as a logos word.  (General to all Christians)

The Bible then becomes a book which contains general information applicable to all but not necessarily specific guidance. While rhema became the voice of God to the believer at any present moment.  The believer was then guided by specific words, experiences, impressions and inner feelings.  Many Pentecostals and Charismatic leaders were led to embrace this subjective definition and thus separate their experiences on a day to day basis from that which was contained within the scriptures.  By doing this Hagin laid down a new world view that presented to the church the Bible (logos) and the prophetic (rhema)

Suddenly God now speaks with two prophetic words rather than one.  Like all modern teaching you can guess which took precedence over the other.  This allowed Hagin the freedom to expound teachings not included in scripture, all in the guise of the New NOW prophetic word.  The Bible was yesterday’s news.  Today we have the rhema prophetic word to guide us.

So Hagin under the guise of the (rhema) prophetic word introduced such teachings:

  1. 1.    Christ’s physical death on the cross was not enough to save us… 
  2. 2.    How Jesus tasted spiritual death…
  3. 3.    Jesus was tortured by demons for three days before God declared from heaven its enough
  4. 4.    Christian is as much the incarnation of God as was Jesus… 
  5. 5.    Man was created on terms of equality with God…
  6. 6.    He made us in the same class of being as he is himself..
  7. 7.    Man lives on terms equal with God…
  8. 8.    Believer is called Christ….

 Hundreds if not thousands have been influenced by this Teacher.  In 2004 Kenneth Hagin died and was superseded by his son Kenneth Hagin Jnr.

Foundations of this teaching stands or falls with Hagin sen.  He stands if his teaching on rhema stands.  There is without doubt Hagin preached another gospel and another Jesus.  Who knows the eternal consequences of those who embraced his teachings.

Now making a statement on to this fact is not the same as proving it.  My aim it to prove that Hagin did not have the slightest understanding of the Greek let alone scripture.

 REVELATION KNOWLEDGE VERSES SENSE KNOWLEDGE

The Mormon Church have their book of Mormon, The Jehovah Witnesses have their New World Translation.  So Hagin had his rhema word.  This became the excuse for extra Biblical revelation.  A subtle poison that has been slowly poisoning the church for the last 50 years.  Natural anyone who came along and disagreed with this new interpretation would be branded as someone who did not have “revelation knowledge” but “sense knowledge.” 

SENSE KNOWLEDGE:  Term used by Hagin to demean those who hold to an understanding of scripture.  That makes the Bible the benchmark upon which all and any revelation must be judged.

REVELATION KNOWLEDGE: Term used by Hagin to express superiority over those who hold to the Bible.

(Rick Joyners  prophecy of a coming civil war in the church between what he calls the blues and the greys is a direct descendent of these ideas.  The Blues are those who hold to revelation knowledge (extra biblical material) and the Greys who hold to the Bible as the sole authority in all matters of faith.

Hagin Cosmetic exercises.

Hagin  related numerous visions to  explain his new revelations.  However he could not be seen to abandon scripture entirely.  He still had to appear to embrace the Bible and use it to explain his new revelations.  All the while undermining what it taught.  Today this hardly matters as few hardly read the Bible never mind understand it.  Today Hagin’s fruit has so matured that it no longer matters what scripture says on a certain matter.  Many simply grab apostle so and so and whatever he drivels out are automatically seen as truth.

So rhema quickly superseded scripture and superseded the interpretation of scripture. This allowed those who had embraced this concept to look down upon those mere Bible believers who clung onto their Bibles. Whilst claiming the freedom to embrace new extra Biblical teachings via so called revelation. 

IN THE SHOES OF THE EARLY APOSTLES

We are going to go back to the first century and speak to those who knew and spoke Greek.  They are going to teach us how this word was used in comparison to Logos.

The Old Testament scriptures were the written word upon which the early apostles would have used. The New Testament was only beginning to be written a few years after Paul had established his pastoral churches.  Paul received the word he preached by revelation.  This would have meant that the use of this Greek word “rhema” should have been the most common word used especially in the book of Acts.   Remember HAGIN BELIEVED THAT RHEMA IS THE SPECIFIC WORD SPOKEN TO AN INDIVIDUAL OR GROUP OF PEOPLE AT ANY GIVEN TIME.  So what was the New Testament then?  Was the New Testament not the new revealed word to the world at that time?  Was it not preached to the Jews on the day of Pentecost?  Was it not preached to a specific group of people?  We must remember that long before Paul wrote his epistles he had already preached the word to those who heard it.    When He wrote his epistles were they not also specific in their message to those churches.  So where then is this word rhema.  How did the early apostles use this Greek word?  Could it be they knew something we don’t?

 The use of Logos and rhema as the written word

Scripture God’s revealed word

No one would dispute the fact that logos is used (Acts 1:1 Logos word) to describe the written word.  Few however realise that rhema is also used to describe the written word.

God testimony about his written word

 2 Tim. 3:16-17All scripture is given by inspiration

Inspiration (Strong’s 2315) means “God breathed, divinely inspired”

It is therefore excepted that all scripture is God breathed and is therefore God’s revelation to man.  Just as God breathed the breath of life into Adam, so God continues to breathe life into his word the Bible.

Romans 1:16For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ for it is the power of God unto salvation to everyone that believeth

So his word is not only God breathed and inspired by God, but it also contains in its message the power to save.  The gospel is often that which is preached, it is a verbal message inspired and empowered creatively by God to come to a divine end, the saving of souls.

Hebrews 1:1-2God who at sundry times and in divers manners spoke in times past unto the fathers by the prophets”

Clearly the Bible is no run of the mill newsletter.  It holds the contents of God’s prophetic word to man and his dealings with man.  It is an affront to declare that in all this time what God has prophetically declared before now has been “general” and “Mundane” . 

God has never spoken anything in general or vague tones.  How can anyone say that what is now spoken prophetically is now superior to what God has previously spoken prophetically?

Romans 15:4Written for our admonition

1 Cor 10:11Admonition and example

2 Cor 12:7GOSPEL CAME BY DIRECT REVELATION

 The Bible is God’s standard and plum line on faith, life and works.  It is still relevant for you and I today.  This is God’s revealed word to the world.

Romans 15:4Written for our comfort, for producing faith, hope, growth

See also 1 Peter 2:2.  Acts 20:32. 1 Thess 2:13

2 Tim 3:16-17Profitable for doctrine reproof, correction, instruction in righteousness

 Scripture therefore speaks specifically to every part of our lives.  It is still relevant for yesterday, today and for tomorrow.  Any suggestion that it is substandard must personally reflect upon God himself who is the author of this word. 

 No man has the right to pick and choose which scriptures are applicable and those that are not.  Yet scripture is a unique piece of divine revelation in that scripture can interpret scripture.  Scripture can teach us what is relevant and what is not.  For example we no longer sacrifice animals because Jesus is that one final sacrifice.  We know that because scripture explains itself.

 Hebrews 13:22I have written a Letter unto you in a few words” (rhema)

The letter in question is the Book of Hebrews.

So here the word rhema is used to speak about what has been written down.  That word we now know as the book of Hebrews.

Letter (Strong’s 1989) “Communicate by letter” is the root word for (1992) which we derive the word epistle.   This same word for (1992) epistle is used in 1 Thess5: 27 “I charge you by the Lord that this epistle be read unto all the holy brethren

The word epistle is used in relation to the books of Acts, Romans, both books of Corinthians, Colossians, and Both Books of Thessalonians, Timothy, and Peter. In the book of Revelation the Apostle John is told to write down what he sees and hears (Rev 1:19 write 1125) This word is also used in the Book of Jude and the epistles of John (1 John 1:4)

 Luke when he came to write the Book of (Acts 1:1) chooses to use the word “Treatise”, which in the Greek is the word  “logos

Eph 3:3-4How that by revelation he made known unto me the mystery, as I wrote(4270) afore in a few words (rhema) whereby when ye read ye may understand…”

2 Cor 10:11Let such a one think this that, such as we are in word (logos) by letters when we are absent such will also be in deed when we are present

Hebrews uses the word rhema 

Ephesians uses the word rhema                               Bible (written word)

Corinthians uses the word logos

Acts uses the word logos

 They are all used to describe the “same” written word.

So any attempt to elevate one word above another must also reflect upon how that word is used in scripture.  Would that mean that some books are more inspired than others? 

We are told that “ALL SCRIPTURE IS GOD BREATHED” irrespective of what Greek word gets used.  There is no 1st 2nd or 3rd class letters from God.  But not all scripture has the same relevance e.g. Romans 7:1- “Released from the law” Hebrews 8:1- Old and New Covenant.  This brings us to another aspect.. The prophetic word.

The prophetic word

Old Testament

The Old Testament is full of prophecies concerning Israel and the Messiah Jesus.  Many of those have already been fulfilled, but there are also many that are still to be fulfilled.

Should we classify what is still to be fulfilled as logos and what has been fulfilled as rhema?

 Matthew 15:4 “For God commanded saying (lego) “Honour thy Father and mother…” Remember that lego is a root word for logos.

 This was a direct spoken command from God (no higher inspired prophetic authority) to Moses upon the MT Sinai.  Jesus himself and Matthew recorded it as so.  So why would such a word as “lego” be used to describe such a momentous meeting between God and his prophet Moses?

Did Matthew NOT realise the importance of such a meeting, who spoke and to whom did God speak?  What was spoken was it mundane, past relevance to the people Jesus spoke to?

Was it?

 Root words: We often have words for example “pneumatic”, as in tyre or drill, this word comes from a root word – “Pneuma” This is the same Greek word for “spirit and breath wind.”  So in the Greek and because the English is influenced by many Greek words we often have words which have a root word to them.

 Luke 3:14Word (logos) of Isaiah” ( fulfilled)

Acts 15:15Word (logos) of Prophets”(fulfilled)

John 12:38Sayings (logos) of Isaiah the prophet” (fulfilled)

See also Jn 10:33 (logos)

2 Peter 3:2 “That ye may be mindful of the words (rhema) which were spoken before by the Holy Prophets and the commandments of us the prophets of the Lord and saviour” (fulfilled)

 The subject matter of the previous scriptures is the same written word we are now reading

In the use of the above scripture the writers have chosen to use both rhema and logos in reference to:

The word that has already been given and what has already been written.

Clearly Isaiah the prophet proclaimed God’s word which in the New Testament was fulfilled

The fact it was fulfilled did not see the writers of the New Testament try to re-categorise the prophecy into a new category.  They still used the word logos to describe a prophetic event.

If we try to force the issue by separating the writing logos into the spoken prophetic word rhema as some today would suggest.  Many will fail to notice the injustice and the prophetic significance of Christ birth and death was to achieve.  There are no mere 2nd or 3rd prophecies.

There are only those that are fulfilled and those that are still to be fulfilled, but they are all prophetically important.

 For more information.  Look up this subject on my BOX FILES (top right hand corner) For the “FINAL EXPOSURE OF THE RHEMA WORD”  which contains the rest of this article.

Michael Houke has done an amazing job at collecting many of the names and teachings of the the WORD OF FAITH (WOF) .   Many of these teachers might have pedated others,  But their influence has played  a major part in what we now know as the prosperity gospel. UC Ministries.

The Word-Faith Movement gets its teachings from E.W. Kenyon (1867-1948) and recently from Kenneth Hagin and Kenneth Copeland. Kenyon got many of his teachings from Metaphysical cults such as New Age Thought, Christian Science, and Gnosticism. There are basically five doctrines of this movement, they are as follows:

1. Revelation Knowledge
2. Tongues
3. Faith
4. Healing
5. Prosperity

Another name for this movement/cult is the popular “ Prosperity Gospel”. Summed up briefly this movement believes that based on the amount of one’s faith they can say it or will it and they can have all the riches they desire. One proponent of this movement, Frederick K.C. Price once said; I drive a Rolls Royce because I have a Rolls Royce kind of faith, if you drive a Volkswagen it’s because you have a Volkswagen kind of faith. This non-sense is taught nowhere in scripture and is completely heretic.

Some of the more well known Preachers of this Movement/Cult are as follows:

John Avanzini
Todd Bentley
Rodney Howard Browne
Morris Cerullo
Kenneth and Gloria Copeland
Paul And Jan Crouch
Creflo A. Dollar
Jesse Duplantis
Kenneth Hagin
Benny Hinn
Steve Hill
Prophet Bernard Jordan
Cindy Jacobs
T. D. Jakes
T. B. Joshua
Patricia King
Kathreen Kulhman
Essek Kenyon
Bishop Eddie Long
Miles Monroe
Joyce Myers
Aimie Simple McPherson
Joel Osteen
Rod Parsley
Peter Popoff
Fredrick K.C. Price
Paula Price
Oral and Rich Roberts
Robert Tilton
Paula White
And many others.

These preachers are nothing more than Wolves in Sheep clothing. Most of them are from the Pentecostal movement and Oneness Pentecostal churches. Other than teaching that the bible wants us to be rich, many of them teach that we are “little gods”. They understand/justify that because we are created in God’s Image, therefore we are little gods with a small “g”. This teaching is highly heretic. Nowhere in scripture does it state that man can become a God or even remotely alludes to the fact that man can become a God, even with a little “g”. They claim that they receive revelation knowledge from God about their teachings. Where can we find this in the Bible? When the Canon of scripture was closed it was finished, we are never told that in the latter years we will receive new and updated information that will be on par or equal with the Bible.

Here is some of the outlandish things that they teach:

1. Faith is a force (Star Wars)
2. Man can become a God
3. Jesus was a rich man
4. Jesus wore designer clothes
5. Jesus stayed at the best places while on tour
6. Because Jesus had a treasurer, he had to be rich
7. Jesus went to hell and battled Satan
8. Jesus was tortured in hell
9. Jesus was born again in hell
10. Jesus rose from the grave in order for believers to become little Gods
11. Believers can control illness and sickness based on their faith
12. Believers have the power to touch and heal others, like Jesus
13. Believers have the power to raise people from the dead
14. Believers receive new revelation knowledge
15. Believers are no longer sinners
16. Believers can talk money into their wallets and purses
17. Holy Laughter is a gift from God
18. They elevate man to God status and reduce God to man’s status
.

Let’s see what these preachers have to say in their own words:

Paul Crouch : “We gotten so caught up in theology and debating and discussing theology and nit picking on this, and the heretic hunters have smokescreen the whole thing.” (The Christian Channel Europe “Praise The Lord” 14/6/98)

Benny Hinn : “Now I am going to read one scripture and then I am going to preach and the Devil is going to drop dead.” (The Christian Channel Europe “Praise The Lord” (TBN) 22/2/98)
Kenneth Copeland : “Faith is a power force. It is a tangible force. It is a conductive force.” (The Force of Faith [Fort Worth, TX: KCP Publications, 1989], 10.)

Kenneth Copeland : “You don’t think earth was first, do you? Huh? Well, you don’t think that God made man in His image, and then made earth in some other image? There is not anything under this whole sun that’s new. Are you hearing what I’m saying? This is all a copy. It’s a copy of home. It’s a copy of the Mother Planet. Where God lives, He made a little one just like His and put us on it.” (“Following the Faith of Abraham I” [Fort Worth, TX: Kenneth Copeland Ministries, 1989], audiotape #01-3001, side 1.)

Paul Crouch, speaking to Kenneth Copeland, said : “Somebody said–I don’t know who said it–but they claim that you Faith teachers declare that we are gods. You’re a god. I’m a god. Small ‘g’ now, but we are the gods of this world. . . . Well, are you a god–small ‘g’?” To this, Jan Crouch, referring to Copeland, enthusiastically exclaimed: “He’s gonna say, ‘Yes.’ I love it.” (“Praise the Lord” program on TBN [5 February 1986].)

Paul Crouch : “He [God] doesn’t even draw a distinction between Himself and us. . . . You know what else that’s settled, then, tonight? This hue and cry and controversy that has been spawned by the Devil to try and bring dissension within the body of Christ that we are gods. I am a little god! . . . I have His name. I’m one with Him. I’m in covenant relation. 1 am a little god! Critics, be gone!” (“Praise the Lord” program on TBN [7 July 1986].)

Frederick K.C. Price : “God can’t do anything in this earth realm except what we, the body of Christ, allow Him to do. Now that statement is so–that’s so–that’s so foreign and so contrary to tradition that, like I said, if they could get their hands on me right now most evangelicals would burn me at the stake and dismember me and feed me to the crocodiles, because they’ll consider that statement to be just heresy.” (“Ever Increasing Faith” program on TBN [1 May 1992], audiotape #PR11.) Cf. chapter 6, 85.

Kenneth Copeland : “Adam was made in the image of God. He was as much female as he was male. He was exactly like God. Then God separated him and removed the female part. Woman means ‘man with the womb.’ Eve had as much authority as Adam did as long as they stayed together.” (Sensitivity of Heart [Fort Worth, TX: KCP Publications, 1984], 23.)

Kenneth Copeland : “I was shocked when I found out who the biggest failure in the Bible actually is….The biggest one is God….I mean, He lost His top-ranking, most anointed angel; the first man He ever created; the first woman He ever created; the whole earth and all the Fullness therein; a third of the angels, at least–that’s a big loss, man. . . . Now, the reason you don’t think of God as a failure is He never said He’s a failure. And you’re not a failure till you say you’re one.” (“Praise-a-Thon” program on TBN [April 1988].)

John Avanzini : “Jesus had a nice house, a big house–big enough to have company stay the night with Him at the house. Let me show you His house. Go over to John the first chapter and I’II show you His house. . . . Now, child of God, that’s a house big enough to have company stay the night in. There’s His house.” (“Believer’s Voice of Victory” program on TBN [20 January 1991].)

John Avanzini : “Jesus was handling big money because that treasurer He had was a thief. Now you can’t tell me that a ministry with a treasurer that’s a thief can operate on a few pennies. It took big money to operate that ministry because Judas was stealing out of that bag.” (“Praise the Lord” program on TBN [15 September 1988].)

John Avanzini : “John 19 tells us that Jesus wore designer clothes. Well, what else you gonna call it? Designer clothes–that’s blasphemy. No, that’s what we call them today. I mean, you didn’t get the stuff He wore off the rack. It wasn’t a one-size-fits-all deal. No, this was custom stuff. It was the kind of a garment that kings and rich merchants wore. Kings and rich merchants wore that garment.” “Believer’s Voice of Victory” program on TBN [20 January 1991].)

.Frederick K C. Price : “The Bible says that He [Jesus] had a treasurer–a treasury (they called it “the bag”); that they had one man who was the treasurer, named Judas Iscariot; and the rascal was stealing out of the bag for three-and-a-half years and nobody knew that he was stealing. You know why? Because there was so much in it, He couldn’t tell. Nobody could tell that anything was missing. If He had three oranges in the bottom of the bag and he stole two of them, don’t tell me He wouldn’t know that some was missing. Beside that, if Jesus didn’t have anything, what do you need a treasury for? A treasury is for surplus. It’s not for that which you’re spending. It’s only for surplus–to hold it until you need to spend it. Therefore, He must have had a whole lot that needed to be held in advance that He wasn’t spending. So He must have had more than He was living on.” (“Ever Increasing Faith” program on TBN [23 November 1990].)

John Avanzini : ‘You don’t think these Apostles didn’t walk around with money? I mean, they had money. I just thank God that I saw this and gave up the denominational line and got on God’s line before I starved me and all my family to death. Go to Acts 24. 1 mean. you don’t think there wasn’t money in this Paul’s life!. . . Paul had the kind of money that people, that government officials, would, would block up justice to try to get a bribe out of old Paul.” (“Believer’s Voice of Victory” program on TBN [20 January 1991].)

Kenneth Copeland : “That Word of the living God went down into that pit of destruction and charged the spirit of Jesus with resurrection power! Suddenly His twisted, death-wracked spirit began to fill out and come back to life. He began to look like something the devil had never seen before.” (“The Price of it All,” Believer’s Voice of Victory 19, 9 [September 1991]:4.)

Kenneth Copeland : “He [Jesus] was literally being reborn before the devil’s very eyes. He began to flex is spiritual muscles. . . .Jesus was born again–the firstborn from the dead the Word calls Him–and He whipped the devil in his own backyard. He took everything he had away from him. He took his keys and his authority away from him.” (Ibid., 4-6.)

Benny Hinn : “When you say, ‘I am a Christian, you are saying, ‘I am mashiach’ in the Hebrew. I am a little messiah walking on earth, in other words That is a shocking revelation…. May I say it like this? You are a little god on earth running around.” (“Praise-a-Thon” program on TBN [6 November 1990].)

I think enough has been said, sadly millions of people give their hard earned money to these wolves in sheep clothing, believing that all they teach will get them to heaven, but it is another gospel and another gospel cannot save anyone! Galatians 1:6-9 says it all, There is only one Gospel, and the prosperity gospel is not the one

By Michael Houke

To understand this subject we have to look at the man who made it popular.  His name is Derek Prince.  British born but like so many he found wealth and fame in America.  He is probably best known for what was to become popularly know as the Shepherding Movement.

SHEPHERDING MOVEMENT:

As Derek and Lydia travelled in ministry in the United States, they became acquainted with many of the other travelling teachers who were responding to the new hunger for understanding of the Bible. In Florida in 1969, DEREK PRINCE, BOB MUMFORD, CHARLES SIMPSON AND DON BASHAM met together to pray about a serious situation in the leadership of a conference where they were speakers. Derek says, “When we stood up from prayer we all realised that God had joined us together in a special way for a special purpose. Subsequently, we made a commitment to cover one another with prayer, to submit our personal lives to one another’s scrutiny and to confer together before making any major personal decisions. The four teachers, later joined by Ern Baxter, became the leaders of the discipleship movement, centred primarily in the United States. The teaching magazine New Wine published their articles and reached many Christians throughout the world

 These men also become known as the Lauderdale Five.  However it did not take long before this shepherding movement went seriously astray as abuses surfaced.  While Derek washed his hands and walked, away little was done to restore or even to rebuild a proper perspective.  The damage was done and like Pontus Pilate he washed his hands and left countless hundreds whose lives were emotionally and spiritually damaged to fend for themselves.

Derek Prince has devoted every gift God has given him to the clear, practical exposition of the Bible. These are some of the biblical truths he has recovered for this generation:

  • Release from curses
  • The place of Israel in God’s plan 
  • Deliverance from demons 
  • The power of proclamation

It is my statement that Derek instead of being an influence for good was severally influenced by heretical teachers.  He then presented these heresies as rediscovered “biblical “truths.   It cannot be understated just how much damaged this one man has done to the Body of Christ.  Long after Kenneth Hagin and the Word Of Faith teachings were exposed, Princes teachings have continued to be embraced by many.

The most damaging heresy was his book “CURSES AND BLESSING”.

He had a earlier book called “Does Your Tongue Need Healing

Those who gave an opinion on this book had this to say.  It will show just how close Prince’s teaching was to Kenneth Hagin Heretical teachings

Blessing and curses are in the mouth of the tongue. Be careful what you say to others and what you speak against yourself. For it could end in a self-fulfilled prophecy, which is all good when what you are speaking is positive…however there are two sides to each coin.

This teaching makes man responsible through his confession for his own salvation.  It appeals to the ego because we become what we want to be.  God becomes the slave to our tongue.  Confess sickness and the power of the tongue will produce it in your life.  Confess health wealth and prosperity and the tongue will produce that as well.  The fact is was nothing more than superstitious nonsense.  Where scriptures were taken out of context, daisy chained together and made to say something which was never intimated. The belief is that what we confessed we will possessed, sadly there is numerous gravestones out there of people who tried to confess their healings and died.  They trusted in themselves or in this case their tongues and their positive confessions and suffered the consequences.

Jer 17: 5Thus saith the LORD; Cursed [be] the man that trusteth in man, and maketh flesh his arm, and whose heart departeth from the LORD.”

Those who place their trust in their confession are placing their faith in the arm of the flesh.

Allot of what was contained in the book CURSES AND BLESSINGS incorporated Hagins ideas on confessing. In fact he blamed an incident concerning his wife’s legs on an idle confession his wife made when she was a teen.  Apparently she did not like the way her legs were. Years later she developed problems in her legs.  Otherwise her negative confession became a curse.  As we have seen we are not to trust the arm of the flesh.  Sadly Prince incorporated this junk into his book.

Derek Prince also incorporated the idea that curses can be carried on through several generations.  Otherwise if your great great grandfather was for example a freemason then the curse would be carried on through those generations.  Now the subtle part is that most of this teaching is predominantly aimed at Christians.  So as a Christian if you have any health problems it would be seen that this curse has been handed down to you.  Since Derek Princes death there has been countless new books published by others based on his teachings. Normally deliverance from this curse would require someone trained in deliverance ministry to discern and break this curse.

Now there are some major problems with this teaching. If that curse can still exists in a Christians life after they are saved, then what can a deliverance minister possible do to remove a curse which even the death of Jesus could not remove?  Plus how can a Christian be blessed in heavenly places and still be cursed by God at the same time. If cursed and God holds something against the believer how can he possibly be encouraged to draw near to the throne of God

If there is this need for someone trained to come alongside a person to break the curse.  This is nothing more than making a man the matrix between God and man.  Thus Jesus is replaced exactly in the same way as the Roman Catholics do at the mass.  Suddenly a man and not Jesus is able to break what Jesus could not.  Suddenly we have an extra biblical priest who can make peace between God and man.

Eze 18:2 What mean ye, that ye use this proverb concerning the land of Israel, saying, The fathers have eaten sour grapes, and the children’s teeth are set on edge?

There are even advocates of this generational teachings that have tried to use this verse as part of their teachings; however this chapter actually disproves their teachings.

Eze 18:19-20 Yet say ye, Why? doth not the son bear the iniquity of the father? When the son hath done that which is lawful and right, [and] hath kept all my statutes, and hath done them, he shall surely live. The soul that sinneth, it shall die. The SON SHALL NOT BEAR THE INIQUITY OF THE FATHER, NEITHER SHALL THE FATHER BEAR THE INIQUITY OF THE SON: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him.

Lets just repeat this part of the verse “The SON SHALL NOT BEAR THE INIQUITY OF THE FATHER, NEITHER SHALL THE FATHER BEAR THE INIQUITY OF THE SON”.  How clear can you get itThis means the generational curse is debunked.

We all bare the curse of Adams fall and we all have a sin nature and we have all fallen short of Gods righteousness.  Now the only way to make peace with God was through the death of Jesus Christ.  NO other way is permissible.  Now you would have thought that Derek Prince would have known this.   

THE DEBT WE DON’T OWE

The most recent damage that Derek Prince legacy has left the church is the Zionist movement.  The thought behind this is that the church has a debt which we need to pay back to the Jewish people.

Derek Princes although now dead, his teachings are carried on by others.  This is what they have to say from their web site partly quoting Derek Prince:

We owe the Jewish people an enormous debt. Without them, the church would have no patriarchs, no prophets, no apostles, no Bible and no Saviour. My most precious possession in life is my Bible, and I owe it to the Jewish people.

Through his booklet, Our Debt to Israel, and his spoken messages, Derek Prince has awakened Christians throughout the world to their responsibility to Israel and the Jewish people. His book, The Last Word on the Middle East, examines in detail prophecies currently being fulfilled and expounds Gods plan for the Middle East as the age draws to its close.

This has led in turn to the quirky idea that unless we bless Israel we are under some CURSE. Again we are led back to this generational curse philosophy.  Whereby we have added works to our faith.  Otherwise we must give something back to Israel like finance or support or God will look down in anger at the Believer.  This would again raise the spectre that Christ’s death was not sufficient. That somehow God’s anger is not totally satisfied and we have to go out and work in order to win his blessing. This is actually humanistic thinking. Nowhere does it say we owe Jews anything.  In fact there is only one person we owe a debt to and that is Jesus.  We don’t owe the messenger anything but we owe the one who sent the message.  Also present day Israel is not the Israel of the Bible. Present day Israel is a secular atheist nation with a strict section or Orthodox Judaism whose opinion of Jesus is obnoxious.  The legacy which Derek Prince has left the church is to elevate Jews onto a pedestal and many have come to bow down and worship at there alters. It should be emphasised that we should care, love and pray for the Jewish people.  But the debt has been paid.  Now where in the Bible does it teach the God will bless the ungodly?  If God will not bless the ungodly why would he expect us to? 

Gen 12:3   And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed.

This is the verse they always hang onto, and yet if you read it correctly the blessing was only given to one man Abraham.  It was never a blessing which was carried onto to all his descendents.

When is our salvation depended on blessing those who reject Christ.  Now we are told :

Mat 5:44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;

But the blessing of God is not depended on blessing any minority ethnic group.

Derek Prince legacy

Now I can’t say if Prince was saved or not but his legacy still lives with us today in some form or another.  While the shepherding movement has suffered tremendous setbacks because of the abuse, its grandchild has to be the apostolic movement.  Who are trying to tie the church under so called apostles and prophets  or NAR New Apostolic Reformation which is headed by Peter Wagner’s.  Kenneth Hagin has since died but Hagins teachings continue through those who were his immediate disciples.  So too is Prince teaching on Curses and Blessings is still very much alive.  So is his concept that demons can possess the believer even if it is just in his flesh.  Today deliverance ministries have grown substantially.   NAR has become a rallying cry for every false teacher who wants the title of apostle or prophet.  Now I appreciate that many of these ideas existed well before Derek Prince, but without Derek I suspect there would be a few less heretical ideas floating around today.