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How can we tell the difference between false brethren and true brethren?  There may be many FACTORS.  But one factor is that Christians LOVE THE TRUTH.  It may make people mad at us , but we LOVE the TRUTH.  We embrace it with a passion.  There is this inward love to lift and embrace what is true and that means rejecting what is not.  We have this natural inward inclination towards what is true.

Rom 11:8 (According as it is written, God hath given them the spirit of slumber, eyes that they should not see, and ears that they should not hear;) unto this day.Young woman cupping hand to ear, close-up

2Ti 4:3-4 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away [their] ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.

The modern gospel mentality:

It’s not a matter of something being positive or negative but is it the truth.  The modern gospel mentality assumes truth is only what is positive and anything negative should be rejected.   The true believer will embrace both because it’s the truth.

Today we see many running after signs and wonders of just about any kind going.  Be it the gold dust, people falling over appearing to be drunk,  and making strange noises and honking like donkeys. Others thrashing their heads so wildly that one fears they might actually lose their head at any moment.  For many such signs are welcomed and even encouraged.  People rejoice in them as if they came down directly from heaven.  However such signs and wonders have been well documented and exposed as false.  The making of such would even make even Hollywood look on with envy.  People carried away with every wind of doctrine.   Some whose acting skills are more suited on Broadway than in church.   Where fleecing the flock has become standard practice.  In fact people even welcome it as part of the service.  Where large buckets are passed around and  promises are made of wealth and prosperity based on  the amount of ones giving.

Todd Bentley recent return to his usual antics with a new crusade in South Africa, made popular by the GOD CHANNEL is typical of this mentality.  Those who LOVE THE TRUTH will run from him and those who don’t will run to him.  The latest excuse is that the man has been restored to the ministry after his exposure for being a false lying worker of iniquity over the Lakeland crusade. But that in the past they say, let us all embrace him as a brother.  Never mind the fact he divorced his wife and married his mistress  Jessa who now carries on with her head thrashing antics of speaking to the now dead Oral Roberts.    Tell me this is not demonic  Jessa has communication from oral Roberts

Jessa in this video had this to say  “what happened in Lakeland was just the beginning,”  But Lakeland was exposed as a massive fraud.  So more of the same means more fraud?  Notice also there was not one sign of humility or repentance over what took place in Lakeland .  Todd was speaking at Lakeland  one minute and the next spending his spare time having sex with his mistress.   Do we really need more  of the same?

So  according to the Bentley’s restoration really means getting away with adultery and dumping any responsibility to your  former wife and kids and carrying on regardless.   I have no doubt that Bentley was demon possessed then and is still demon possessed now.

Those who have a love for the truth will run from him.  Those who don’t will run to him.   The division has been made.  The sword has been drawn.   The reality is that many who love to have their ears tickled will grasp this will all their heart and soul. I am sorry to say this but they neither love the truth, nor do they care to be reminded of it.

Truth is not measured by what signs and wonders are on show, but by what scripture has to say.  Truth that comes out from the inner most part of the person’s heart that says if it false I will reject it.  If it’s not scripturaly grounded I will have no part of it.

The notable example is the so called drunk in the spirit phenomena that Todd Bentley and company have encouraged.  NO where in scripture does such a phenomena exist.  In fact the opposite is true.  When a man is filled with the Holy Spirit the opposite effect takes place.  He becomes more sober and alert to what is going on.  Under this so-called drunkenness people begin to act as foolish and stupid as any fool who has just been dragged out from under some bar .

The great deception which scripture predicted is here, so expect many to follow it. They follow it because their ears are tickled, they have a love but not for the truth.

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Is Faith nothing more than a positive attitude?   This quote comes from Facebook, a comment someone I know put up on their Facebook.

 This is what John Hagee teaches.

 John Hagee Ministries · he received 321,383 like for this statement

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FAITH IS HAVING A POSITIVE ATTITUDE ABOUT WHAT YOU CAN DO AND NOT WORRYING AT ALL ABOUT WHAT YOU CAN’T DO. (emphasis mine)

 It seems despite almost 60 responses to this comment.  The majority bar one agreed with him.  A sad state when the church has absolutely no idea what FAITH is and what it is not.   Here is one quote from a women who definitely had no idea. 

  W.R.FloresWow! It doesn’t get more clearer than that! Thank you, Pastor!!

I have to admit I just cannot commend this woman for her response, and she was just one of almost 60 people.  Many of which said “Amen” to John Hagee statement

Now out of those 60 just one man responded Biblically and honestly. 

FarrierI hate to disagree…and its a first on this page, but No, I’m sorry pastor, FAITH is not merely maintaing a positive attitude despite your limitations, FAITH is having FULL confidence in God to do all things through you and not worrying about the need for your individual effort, or questioning God’s timing by your definition of results.”

I stand to commend and applaud that at least one person was willing and able to define the truth on Biblical Faith.  What makes this so serious is that merely having a positive attitude cannot keep you from Hell but faith in God will. 

Notice how many LIKES he got for that comment.  Is that 321, 363 potential souls on their way to a lost eternity and only ONE gave the right response.  How many will follow this man who is on record as rejecting Christ as the messiah is anyone’s guess.  But personally this is serious stuff.  When the people who call themselves Christians can no longer define what Biblical faith is , we know we have a problem today.

 

Now this was asked by a Moslem as a trick question, which going by experience was normal for them?   Naturally as Christian we have a tendency to emphasise on the resurrection of Jesus and what took place in his humanity after his resurrection.

Now as we would obviously note that because Jesus had risen he would not be in the grave on the Fourth or fifth day.  The response from this Moslem was that Jesus could not be God because he was not in the grave.  Cheap shot at best and completely dumb.

Nevertheless it does raise a question which can be answered.  WHERE WAS JESUS DURING THOSE DAYS?  WE KNOW WHERE HIS BODY LAY BUT WHERE WAS THE REST OF HIM?

Had he had the honesty to ask the obvious relevant question he would probably have received the obvious answer that we shall now look at?

Now we have several references as to where Jesus was during this time.

(1)     Lk 23: 43 And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, To day shalt thou be with me in Paradise.

(2)   1 Peter 3: 19 By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison

(3)   Mat 28: 20-Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you always, [even] unto the end of the world. Amen

(4)   Heb 9: 23 It was] therefore necessary that the patterns of things in the heavens should be purified with these; but the heavenly things themselves with better sacrifices than these. For Christ is not entered into the holy places made with hands, [which are] the figures of the true; but into heaven itself, now to appear in the presence of God for us:

Jesus made certain promises to his disciples that he would be with them always.  So even when his body lay in the grave, he was with them.  Although they did not see him physically he was nevertheless with them in spirit.  Therefore he had never left them.

We also know he went and preached to those who were held in prison.

1 Peter 3: 19- 20 By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison;  Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water

Finally the promise to the repentant thief was the promise that he would be with Christ in paradise.     Christ did not leave to go elsewhere.

Jesus also took his own blood and entered into the holy place in heaven of which the holy of holies was a type, and offered his own blood for the ransom of many.

Now all these things took place simultaneously over the course of those days.  That means he is the omnipresent God, and fully capable of doing what needed to be done.

If Jesus needed to be with someone in the grave he most certainly could have.  Unlike allah who can’t.  Nevertheless we have another promise:

Mat 22: 32 I am the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob? God is not the God of the dead, but of the living.

As Jesus reminded us Math 28:20 he continues to remain with us both in life and in death.  Except in death we go to be with Christ

2 Cor 5: 8 We are confident, [I say], and willing rather to be absent from the body,present with the Lord

We hold to a covenant keeping God

Where does this confidence come from?

It comes from the Bible as we gain confidence in Gods ministerial ministry among his people.  The Bible is not so much about man finding God, But how Gods finds men.  The Bible is really all about how a perfect righteous holy God gets his hands dirty and reveals himself to those who follow him.   He gets involved in the lives of men and women who are not perfect, pure or saintly.  They all have history that would in some cases turn our heads at.  Murderers thieves adulterers, schemers, Harlots, and much much more.  It is the fact that God reaches out to these people that helps the rest of us as we all have history.    None of us come with a perfect record.  Yet God is bold enough gracious enough and loving enough to touch people’s lives.

For many and that includes Moslems they can’t understand this.  They don’t have a religion that sees individual Moslems meet with God.  Or if they do they will usually leaven Islam.

It comes from a deep personal experience of walking with him and seeing answers to life’s issues.   God remains a God who is very much a part of the lives of his people.

SO TO ANSWER THE ORIGIONAL QUESTION.?  HE WAS WHERE HE NEEDED TO BE.

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UCMINISTRIES : This is but a crude illustration which describes the origin of the Word of Faith, or as some have coined The Prosperity Movement..  Whilst this is by no means a complete or exhaustive picture, it does show how the origins of this teaching stem not from scripture but the doctrines of men.   The various relationships between the various ministries may vary from person to person, but there can be no doubt that the influences do exist.

Jude 1: 4 For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ

2 Peter 2: 1 But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction

2 Peter 3: 3 And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not.

This was predicted centuries ago and we are now seeing the fulfilment.  Sadly many a good man or women has been caught up in the movement and swept along.  These Pillow prophets have merchandised the gospel, crept in under our radar and seduced the church with their pernicious teachings.    I can only hope in time this tree with be added to show how others fit into the picture.  Mark them well as they have neither the health of your soul or your spiritual well being in mind.

Mat 7: 15 -18 @ 20 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.  Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither [can] a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.

There are many who do come to reject what Hagin taught, yet do not even realise that they are still drinking from the same polluted well. The same theology of faith as a force and the power in words to create ones own reality, still posses a heavy cocktail that many find to hard to renounce.  Motivational speakers like Joyce Mayer and Joel Osteen present to the unwary their own rehash revamped mixture of positive thinking and prosperity gospel all rolled into one.  Many see in these preachers what they lack in themselves, a positive image, a deep sense of self worth, and the need to see themselves in a more positive constructive light.  The sad reality however it is still not the gospel.  What makes this all the more dangerous is that these preachers are elevated and enthroned on pedestals as latter day apostles.  They cannot be questioned or rebuked less you are touching upon the Lords anointed.

The roots of this philosophy go very deep into a theology that’s alien to scripture.  Whilst Biblical terms like faith in God are used, inevitably faith gets placed in everywhere else but God.     The message may sound overwhelmingly positive but positivity in of itself is still not scripture. 

Scripture is made into a repetitive confession simply to be declared, rather than a belief to be lived by, and just because a man can confess there is a GOD does not mean he truly knows him.  A reptititious confession cannot bring a man closer to God, than reading a book makes you known to the author.

To say that the gospel has been hijacked is an under statement.  It has been repackaged, relabelled, prostituted to the ninth degree, Pimped out to whoever will be pay a buck, rebranded all in the name of God.  If Jesus was around to day he would have to cleanse the temple all over again.  Then we wonder why Christianity today if failing.  Unless we have smoke machines and disco lights on the platform the youth are not interested.  The Old guard are pushed out as out of touch and out of date.  Worship is more like an hour at the local disco.    

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Over the years Benny Hinn has managed to come out with some of the most remarkable predictions and statements known within Christendom.  From the belief that there are nine persons within the trinity to daring to place curses upon  people who dare to disagree with his ministry, all of which failed miserably. 

He has grown rich at the expense of the truth, and remains in my opinion one of the most dubious characters goingBenny Hinn holy spirit

In a more recent event which can be found on YOUTUBE we have a set of three tapes entitled :

Pastor Benny Hinn – Teaching on the Holy Spirit (parts 1-3)

I have tried to quote some of his most unusual statement from his three-part  sermon.  The only real redeeming quality of all three can be found in the third tape where he appears to reject the word of faith teaching on positive confession.   Where he recounts a story of a woman dying from cancer but refuses to confess she was.  Benny gets her to confess the truth about her ailment and of course the moral of the story is she confesses and gets healed.  How true this story is I don’t know. But it may highlight the fact just how much that the campaign against this teachings is getting through, and some of those who formally embraced it  like Benny are now trying to distance themselves from it. 

As this is a set of three tapes, I have drawn upon some of the basic statements on his teaching on the Holy Spirit.  We will see that Benny still has no real understanding of the Trinity now as he did when he quoted his famous nine persons in the trinity statement.

Hinn blasphemy to say the least is both remarkable and ongoing.  Neither gifted with understanding or having the faintest clue about Biblical doctrine, I suspect he simply makes it up as he goes along.   He continues as all Word of Faith teachers do, misquote and misinterpret scripture to formulate their own bizarre ideas

Part 1 of three part tape

One of the supremely important revelations of the Bible has to do with Gods nature…the Bible unfolds a mystery that we could not know through no other source but the Bible…. What is that mystery… the mystery is that God is both one and three… Father son and Holy Spirit… one of the most profound revelations has to do with the person and work  of the Holy Spirit… When you discover that the Holy Spirit is the presence of God everywhere.  Turn to Jer 23: 23  (Benny Hinn)

Jer 23: 23-24  [Am] I a God at hand, saith the LORD, and not a God afar off?  Can any hide himself in secret places that I shall not see him? saith the LORD. Do not I fill heaven and earth? saith the LORD.

The Holy Spirit is that limitless of power in the Godhead…… we must understand without the Holy Spirit God the father would not know what is happening on this planet.  I have just said something to wake you up….. without the Holy Spirit  even  (3:59)  Without the  HOLY SPIRIT  even God the father does not know what is happening inside of you…. Important even to the Father himself (someone reads out Jer 23: 23-24)  How does God fill the  heaven and earth…the answer is in Pslam 139: 1 (Benny Hinn)

 Ps 139: 1-7 [[To the chief Musician, A Psalm of David.]] O LORD, thou hast searched me, and known [me]. Thou knowest my downsitting and mine uprising, thou understandest my thought afar off.  Thou compassest my path and my lying down, and art acquainted [with] all my ways. For [there is] not a word in my tongue, [but], lo, O LORD, thou knowest it altogether. Thou hast beset me behind and before, and laid thine hand upon me. [Such] knowledge [is] too wonderful for me; it is high, I cannot [attain] unto it. Whither shall I go from thy spirit? or whither shall I flee from thy presence?

V7 … that verse unlocks the whole chapter. (Benny Hinn)

There are three main attributes to God which we want to look at :

Omniscience ( all-knowing). 

Omnipresence (abides everywhere)  

Omnipotence (all-powerful.)

Take any one of these away and God is denigrated and he ceases to be the God of the Bible.  For the Father to not know what’s going on without the help of the Holy Spirit implies a limitation on his knowledge and his omnipresence and thus strikes at the third all in one go.  The Father is then denigrated to a lesser position and the Holy Spirit is elevated above the father.  Otherwise the Holy Spirit is greater because he has the attributes that the father does not have.

Jer 23 does not say the only way God the Father knows anything is because of the Holy Spirit.  Jeremiah 23 makes it clear that the LORD which is a collective name for God is present everywhere.  He is neither limited nor constrained in knowledge his presence or his power.

Ps 139 on a single verse which mentions the word spirit and presence is immediately jumped upon to the exclusion of other verses.  It must be reminded that God is a spirit and the Psalmist is referring to God himself. 

(part 2)

1.36 Holy Spirit is the agent through whom God knows everything and is everywhere by the spirit. …. God the father through the spirit…. Only through the spirit is present everywhere….. Jesus through the spirit and only through the spirit is present everywhere…. The Holy Spirit is the presence of God the father and of presence of God the son in the whole universe.

Holy spirit is the power of creation itself!

When the word and the spirit is united creation is the result….. when the spirit and the word  become one creation is the result…. Whether in the universe or in your life……teaching on faith went off balance… for all they taught was the word…and forgot about the breath…God said let there be light only  ….only after the spirit moved…if the spirit does not move the word will not produce… there will be no results…

If the spirit does not move the word will not produce! (Benny Hinn)

Again we can see how the Holy Spirit is elevated at the cost of the Father and the Son.  Whereupon he forgets that GOD is still one God.   So where the Father goes , the son goes and so does the Holy Spirit.  There can be no thought that the father is sitting somewhere else clueless about the rest of the universe and only knows what is happening when the Holy Spirit reports to him. 

To say that the word Jesus will not produce anything unless the Breath Holy Spirit moves is unscriptural.  In creation they acted as ONE.  To place a greater emphasis on one to the detriment of the other is to do great disservice to the truth.

Heb 1: 3  Who being the brightness of [his] glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high;

Heb 1: 10 And, Thou, Lord, in the beginning hast laid the foundation of the earth; and the heavens are the works of thine hands

The Father and the Son are not independent third parties whose dependence on a third to get things done.  There are ONE united being.

Part 3

The Bible says clearly ….the Holy Spirit is the active agent  of the godhead on this planet…..There is a mystery as to why… only one of the godhead can be present  at one time on the earth… one day find out…. God the father was active when Moses and the children of Israel  came out of Egypt….Only God the father was on the planet … was seen visibly with the eye on mt Sinai… For a short time God the son was on the earth….Only God the son….now we are living in that season where only the Holy Spirit is living on the planet….God the father and God the son is not here right now… God the father and God the son are in heaven right now… God the Holy Ghost is living on this planet right now.  (Benny Hinn)

Lets stop here for a moment Benny says that it’s the Holy Spirit that’s the presence of God and it’s the Holy Spirit that’s everywhere. And its only the Holy Spirit that knows what’s going on at anytime of the day.  If the Holy Spirit is everywhere why did he cease to be everywhere when the Father was on the earth?  This my friend is a clear contradiction on Benny’s part. 

Col 2: 9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

This verse makes it clear that the godhead did indeed dwell in Jesus in their fullness.  There can be no teaching that Jesus was somehow left to fend for himself alone without God himself being present.

So the Father the Son and the Holy Spirit were very active in the life of Jesus.

But it gets worse????

Benny says that the Father and the son are not living on the planet at this moment.  Oh really maybe Jesus would have something to say on this matter.

If only one member of the trinity can live on the earth at any given time   why does scripture give us these verses?

Col 1: 27 To whom God would make known what [is] the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles; which is Christ in you, the hope of glory

Rom 8:9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.

John 14: 23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him

2 Cor 6: 16 And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in [them]; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.

If we have the Holy Spirit here now , why does it not also say that CHRIST IN US IS NOW THE HOPE OF GLORY , because we would have two .  Plus Jesus himself says that the Father and Jesus would come and dwell within the believer.  Now does that not make three?  Three makes ONE triune GOD.

Now God is not some schizophrenic creature with one part over there and one part over here.  Whilst there seems to be order within the godhead of Father Son and Holy Spirit, each has a responsibility within the believer’s life.  They do and act as one.   Where the father is the son is and where they are the Holy Spirit is also.  Just as creation was the product of all three, so was the resurrection of Jesus the work of all three, and the abiding presence of the triune God abides within the Believers life. We cannot elevate the Holy Spirit above the father as this would be prejudice to the spirit and truth of scripture. 

According to Benny when God the father brought out the Hebrew Children , The father alone was on the earth.  Lets see if that is true or not.

When Moses led the children out of Egypt we also see: . 

Is 63 : 10 But they rebelled, and vexed his holy Spirit: therefore he was turned to be their enemy, [and] he fought against them

1 Cor 10: 4 And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ.

Whoops that’s means we had the father Son and Holy Spirit present at the same time.  That makes Benny Hinn a False teacher of the highest quality.  If he cannot look to scripture as sola basis for truth and expound from theories which he derives out of his own imagination, its high time people realise Benny Hinn is no Christian minister.

Acts 16: 8 And God, which knoweth the hearts, bare them witness, giving them the Holy Ghost, even as [he did] unto us;

Mat 9: 4 And Jesus knowing their thoughts said, Wherefore think ye evil in your hearts.

There can be no doctrine that sees the Holy Spirit as being omnipresent and the Father and the son is limited to some outpost of heaven.  That is not the God of the Bible.

In a recent debate on the issue of Joyce Meyers, the argument went something like this:

“But people are getting saved through her ministry”

The idea being that if Joyce and her fellow prosperity teachers are saving souls they cant be that bad.   I have a friend whose father in Law went to a Benny Hinn crusade and went forward to be saved.  After that they would not hear anything bad about Benny. 

NOW IT A FAIR ENOUGH QUESTION IF THEY ARE WINNING CONVERTS SURELY THAT CAN’T BE BAD?

Now please notice that I have change the wording from actually being saved to winning converts, because numbers are not really a basis to determine if someone is genuine.  The appeal to converts does not in itself determine the message.  There is no doubt many cults including the rev Sun Moon of the unification church  and even Islam  all groupingboast in their numbers  as the principle basis that numbers somehow equals truth.   Yet we know their message is in no way genuine.

So the number game does not determine the message or the fruit.  Jesus had few followers at the end and yet his message and fruit was more than genuine.   Sadly it has become the principle debate that mega churches are automatically right simply because of their numbers.    We can’t go on that basis.  As scripture says Broad is the road that leads to destruction, and narrow is the road that leads to life.  The broad road is easy to find, but the narrow is so much harder to find, never mind squeeze through.

THE GOSPEL IS PREACHED FOR A VARIETY OF REASONS, SOME OF WHICH IS NOT ALWAYS OUT OF A GENUINE MOTIVE.

Phil 1: 16 The one preach Christ of contention, not sincerely, supposing to add affliction to my bonds.

Just because someone preaches a gospel message:  Appears to use all the right terminology and even makes an altar call, is no guarantee they are the genuine article.  People have preached the gospel for many reasons.  Some of which have been for reasons altogether insincere.  Many have done so because there were dollar signs attached.   Such as with the case of Marjoe Gortner who for many years went on the preaching circuit, and accumulated vast sums of wealth.   He was brought up by his parents to be the boy preacher.  Many believed on him, followed him.  He preached and prayed for the sick and could speak in tongues as good as anyone.    Yet he is on record as never ever being a true believer.  He could say all the right things and make all the right moves, but was never the genuine article.   Yet how many bought into this mans message and dare I say anointing?  Just because a man claims he is anointed, does not mean he is?  In the end he did a final preaching tour with a camera team to expose just how easy people could be deceived.  Sadly many missed the lesson!!!!

 2 Peter 2: 16 But was rebuked for his iniquity: the dumb ass speaking with man’s voice forbad the madness of the prophet

BUT WHAT IF A PERSON GETS SAVED THROUGH A FALSE TEACHER?

Balaam’s was rebuked by his ass and what the ass said was true.  Now did ass gather a following afterwards?  Just because a ass bore some fruit does not mean we should all follow the ass.  The ass may have been used once but the ass remained just an ass.    So someone may have been witness to by something someone said.  Still does not mean we follow the ass.    Plus and what makes this all the more important is the preacher is not the one who does the saving, God does.  Yet in listening to some you can’t help walk away with the thought that the preacher becomes the one who does.

There is an interesting line to point out here.  The messenger is still only the messenger.  A sign post on the road is still only a sign post, but he is never the vehicle that takes you to the end of the road.    So even if someone is convinced by an individual, like Joyce Meyers.  Joyce is not the one who saves, God alone saves the lost soul.  What many are actually pointing to is the fact that Copeland Osteen Meyers or the many others are actually doing is winning converts to themselves, rather than to the Lord.

IF NOT SAVED , THEN WHAT ARE THEY SAVED TO?

Heb 4: 2 For unto us was the gospelpreached, as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard [it].

It would seem that in some conversation with people, it becomes clear that it is not a matter that people are being saved to know the Lord, But that they are being converted to a certain individual.  What happens is that the convert instead of running after God, spends their time running after the messenger.  When the messenger falls the converts fall away.  It may not always happen,  they may come through to a genuine path and therefore to a genuine faith.  But when trust is misplaced and these pillow prophets will often package their message in such as way that they place themselves central to their message.  That people inevitable follow the individual thinking they are following God.. 

IT’S ALL IN HOW THE MESSAGE IS PACKAGED

There is great subtly in the way the prosperity message is packaged.  There is almost a two tier lever of consciousness to their message.  Yet whilst many hear one level they will embrace both.  One is a very vocal top message that’s very positive.   This message is very comfortable to embrace, health peace financial stability, divine health and how to love oneself.

There is a lot what I call mixture, where both truth and error are all blended in together and it takes almost a blowtorch to separate the two.

But the core lever of the message which drives the top message is altogether prejudice against the truth of scripture.  Both are inevitably embraced without the realisation that the core message is poison and dangerous to the soul.  I have talked with a number of Prosperity believers who would argue blind that Copeland, Hagin and others did not teach a specific aspect of their message.  Yet in the continual conversation on the subject they would begin to mimic the very thing they denied previously.  It is both curious and alarming that the individuals do not see this reality.  It takes some persuasion before even they begin to see that the truth of the falseness of these teachers is actually coming out of their own mouths.

The final level is probably the worst in this regard that they both see believe and accept that what is being taught by these people is not accord with scripture.  It is almost impossible to reach them without God.  At this level the individuals are so persuaded, and their conscience has been so seared and hardened that it almost impossible to reach.    They know what they believe and could not care that the doctrine they pursue is error. 

To put is bluntly people are being brainwashed by this heresy.  Because this message is often repeated word for word, with only minor changes people are becoming subconsciously persuaded by it. Just as people are persuaded to buy the next new product on the market, so people are being persuaded in the same way.  The constant repetition of any product is eventually picked up by some consumer, so the message if listen to on a regular basis on Books TV and tape will eventually hit its mark.

I know of another dear friend who was involved in a church that embraced this heresy many years ago.  Whilst he knows that the prosperity teaching is wrong.  He totally rejects it as heresy.  Yet there are times he comes out with something that I can tell is from the prosperity Message.  Unless you are fully aware of why how and where you can miss the subtitle of this heresy, but once you see and grasp where it is wrong it sticks out like a boulder. 

Joel Osteen’s new book 31 declarations to speak over your life is not new but simply a

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continuation of what many an oil snake salesmen have embarked on before hand.  Its not that one cannot be positive in what one confesses, but the belief that what one confesses will bring that blessing to you.   Osteen like most Prosperity teachers believe in the power of ones words.  So unless its confessed you cant have it.  If we are truly blessed then we don’t need to confess what  we already have, nor do we need to buy the books, tapes or the various gimmicks which go with it.  The coffee cup with the declarations written on the side will no doubt last less time with constant washing that the book will.  But it simply testifies to the gimmicks such men use.  Can anyone really see Jesus or his disciples selling such paraphernalia to make themselves a buck or two? 

2 Peter 2: 3 And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not.

Truly this prophecy has come to pass in our modern church

 The sad reality is that TV prosperity ministries, has become nothing more than a sales pitch gimmickry. By polished sales men with sleazy smiles and dressy clothes selling people what is inevitably a false message. It might soothe the conscience to sleep, but it will never transport them to a celestial home.

 Where is the gospel message ? Where is the conviction where men trembled at the preaching of the word? Where is the reality of holiness and separation? Where is the truth about SIN.  Its ugliness,  and it power to separate the soul from God? Where is the message of fire and brimstone? Men might not like it but we need it. The cost is too great. Life is too short and eternity too long to be wooed to sleep. We all need the message that will arouse us out of our comfort zone , which will cut us to the heart and shock us to the realisation of our needs. The true gospel is not a matter of being positive or negative, But TRUTH and ERROR. The true Gospel brings conviction and change. The true gospel does not appeal to our flesh, its huts because it needs to.

 No Osteen does not want to upset his members with such messages, Keep them in the dark about their souls . Keep them content with a coffee cup, a smile and a soothing message of peace and comfort.

 1 Thes 5: 3 For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape

 In the end it is going to cost a lot of people far more than just a coffee cup as a reminder.

John 8: 58 Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am

John 10: 30 I and [my] Father are one. Then the Jews took up stones again to stone him. Jesus answered them, Many good works have I shewed you from my Father; for which of those works do ye stone me? The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God.

Is 9: 6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

Now Jesus makes clear his credentials as to his divinity. But can such be said of others?

LITTLE GODS AND THEIR LITTLE THEOLOGY

“EVERY MAN WHO HAS BEEN BORN AGAIN IS AN INCARNATION AND CHRISTIANITY IS A MIRACLE. THE BELIEVER IS AS MUCH AN INCARNATION AS WAS JESUS OF NAZARETH” (Kenneth Hagin, “The Incarnation,” The Word of Faith 13, December, 1980).

So Kenneth Hagin believes that he is as MUCH AN INCARNATION OF GOD AS JESUS WAS? The question is does he fulfil the requirements of one who was incarnated? Jesus made his credentials clear he was Yawah God. Now in what sense can Hagin claim to be the same Yawah God?

1 John 4: 9 In this was manifested the love of God toward us, because that God sent his only begotten Son into the world, that we might live through him

The word “ONLY,” In Greek monogenēs means unique and one of a kind. Jesus made it clear that he was in every way UNIQUE. Now some would try and quibble what Hagin may or may not have said concerning the term incarnation. But Hagin makes it clear by specifically stating that man can be exactly the same “incarnation as Jesus was”

So how does one who is unique cease to be UNIQUE ? He does not unless you are a word of Faith teacher, who believes everyone who is saved becomes an only begotten son. The sad part is they mix up the terms Born again with only begotten. Both are very different words and meaning. The unsaved can be adopted and born again; the term begotten is only applied to a son and heir to his father’s house. When Jesus was born in a manger he was begotten. Otherwise brought forth as the son of his father. That is made clear throughout the gospels.

Jesus said I am the Way the Truth and the Life and NO MAN can come to the father except by me.

Now if Hagin was truly an incarnation he might also possible have claimed to himself and say he was also the Way the Truth and the Life. But it is at this point Hagin becomes disqualified. No man can come to the Father except by Hagin? I don’t think so!!! Only By Jesus and Jesus alone.

Jesus uniqueness is Highlighted Exonerated and Affirmed in a way that even Kenneth Hagin could not possible fill

It must be remembered that this theology is more than a statement that we are gods in Gods class. It comes fully packaged with all the attributes of a god. Claiming equality with God as fellow gods. Boasting that what they confess they will possess. Claiming that Adam was equal to God. That they can do what God can do. Claiming that God was locked outside of this earth and had to get help from man to let him back in. When as Kenneth Copeland claimed that when Jesus said he was the I AM he could claim that title also. On the one hand they claim that Jesus was as the incarnation of God mere human, Yet they will elevate themselves as the incarnation divine and more than human. God is made to seem powerless whilst they are all powerful.

Hagins book “Write your own ticket with God,” sees Hagin triumph over a demon whilst Jesus stood helpless. That is all part of the theology of little gods. Yet who in their right mind would believe that any demon could triumph over the creator of the universe. The fact that Hagin used Jesus name to triumph rather than his own proved a major contradiction to his tale. If Jesus presence could not silence the demon, why should anyone believe that his name would? Hagin gave himself away. The story was fictitious!!!!!

TEMPTATION TO BECOME GODS BROUGHT DISASTER.

When that old snake in the grass decided to temp Eve with the idea that if they only bite into the fruit that came from the tree of good and evil they would become Gods with “special revelation knowledge.” knowledge that would make them as wise as God himself. Now if Adam and Eve really were gods then all Eve had to do was question and ask how can they become what they were already?

But as Eve did not make such a forthcoming statement but bite into the lie we have to presume that being gods was something they were tempted into. The result was catastrophic. Now both history and scripture has set out before us just what happens to those who begin to see themselves as little gods.

TO BOAST THAT ONE IS A GOD BRINGS JUDGEMENT

Hurricane Sandy bares down and the gods are silent

Jer 10: 11 Thus shall ye say unto them, The gods that have not made the heavens and the earth, [even] they shall perish from the earth, and from under these heavens

There lies an open judgement  and a curse upon “ALL” other gods. As there can be only one who created the heavens and the earth, this means the rest with Perish. If you believe yourself a GOD then you come under this judgement. In fact it was this verse that proved to me that the whole little gods doctrine was false.

The Emperors of Rome went mad.

Pharaoh was greatly humbled.

king Nebuchadnezzar landed up eating grass .

Herod landed up being eaten by worms.

Acts 12: 21 And upon a set day Herod, arrayed in royal apparel, sat upon his throne, and made an oration unto them. And the people gave a shout, [saying, It is] the voice of a god, and not of a man. And immediately the angel of the Lord smote him, because he gave not God the glory: and he was eaten of worms, and gave up the ghost.

Jer 50: 31- 32 Behold, I [am] against thee, [O thou] most proud , saith the Lord God of hosts: for thy day is come, the time [that] I will visit thee. And the most proud shall stumble and fall, and none shall raise him up: and I will kindle a fire in his cities, and it shall devour all round about him.

WHERE ARE THE GODS THAT BOAST OF THEIR DIVINITY?

Jer 2: 28 But where [are] thy gods that thou hast made thee? let them arise, if they can save thee in the time of thy trouble: for [according to] the number of thy cities are thy gods, O Judah

Jer 11: 12 Then shall the cities of Judah and inhabitants of Jerusalem go, and cry unto the gods unto whom they offer incense: but they shall not save them at all in the time of their trouble

Where were these little gods when hurricane Sandy brought devastation to the city of New York? They stood helpless. All the confessions, boasting and decrees went unheeded? Where where they as buildings collapsed and floods poured across the flood defences and flooded underground terminals? Where were they? What will they use for an excuse? Is it any wonder that angels look on in amazement at such pride and boasting. yet will they be humbled and repentant ?

Strange things happen to those who perpetuate this myth!

Deut 8: 3 And he humbled thee, and suffered thee to hunger, and fed thee with manna, which thou knewest not, neither did thy fathers know; that he might make thee know that man doth not live by bread only, but by every [word] that proceedeth out of the mouth of the LORD doth man live

We don’t live by every word that comes out of our mouth, but by every word he speaks.

QUALIFICATION OF ONE WHO IS A GOD?

John 1: 1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God

Where was Hagin when this happened?

John 1: 3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made

Can this be said of Kenneth Hagin?

John 1: 4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men

John 1: 14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth

Now in just these simple statements does Hagin fulfil any of them? If not how then can he claim to be the same incarnation of God? The word alone means God became man, It does not mean Man can become God. So Hagin had to be God before he became man. In which case the trinity becomes more than a triune being. Many simply do not grasp that when men like Hagin describe themselves with the title as INCARNATION. They are not just saying they are a god, but they are part of the GODHEAD. Father Son holy spirit and Kenneth Hagin. To say the least this is blasphemy..

God commanded angels to worship Jesus >>> Does that mean angels should worship Hagin as well

Jesus had no beginning >>>> Hagin had a beginning

Jesus has no end of days >>>> Hagin died

Jesus was creator and sustainer of the universe>>>> Hagin could not even sustain his own life ,

Jesus was the only Begotten Son >>>> Hagin life was anything but unique.

Jesus had no sin >>>> Hagin was born and shapen in iniquity

Jesus had no mother or father >>>> Hagin had both a mother and Father.

Jesus knew what was in all men >>> I doubt If Hagin knew what was in his own heart.

Jesus still raised the dead , made the blind to see and ceased the storms. >>>>>Hagin failed that part as well. His own son in Law buddy Harris died of cancer. No healing and sadly no resurrection either.

Jesus remains our great high priests. >>>> Hagin can’t even fulfil that job requirement,

Jesus is our judge >>>>> Hagin was judged

Jesus gives life >>>> Hagin had no life to give He died

Jesus rose from the dead >>>> Hagin bones remain in his coffin.

Jesus rose himself from the dead >>>> Hagin could not even keep himself alive.

Jesus sent the Holy Spirit >>>> Hagin too late the Holy Spirit has already come

Holy Spirit came in Jesus name >>>> He does not come in Hagin’s name.

Holy spirit will reveal Jesus >>>> He did not come to reveal Hagin

Holy Spirit leads to the truth >>> Hagin followed the father of lies.

Holy Spirit motivates people to realise their sin and repent from it. >>> How can Hagin be a God when he was born a sinner.

God exists from eternity to eternity >>>> God was not made but exist outside of time. Hagin died period his time was up.

So when Hagin says he was as much an incarnation of God as Jesus was, he simply can not fulfill the job description.

THE ONLY PERSON TO FULFIL THESE SHOES AS THE TRUE INCARNATION OF GOD IS JESUS. THE REST IS SIMPLY MAKE BELIEVE AND FANTASY.

Jer 17: 5 Thus saith the LORD; Cursed [be] the man that trusteth in man, and maketh flesh his arm, and whose heart departeth from the LORD

2Cr 1:9 But we had the sentence of death in ourselves, that we should not trust in ourselves, but in God which raiseth the dead:

Yet is this the confession of the Word of Faith teachers?

We (the church) are Christ. (Kenneth Hagin, As Christ is — So are we, Tape #44H06)

The Christian “is as much an incarnation as was Jesus of Nazareth.” (Kenneth Hagin, “The Incarnation,” THE WORD OF FAITH (Dec. 1980), 14.)

“Man is a spirit who possesses a soul and lives in a body…., He is in the same class with God. …We know that God is a Spirit. And yet [He] took upon Himself a man’s body….when God took upon Himself human form, He was no less God than when He didn’t have a body. Man, at physical death, leaves his as he was when he had his body.” (Kenneth Hagin, Man of Three Dimensions [Tulsa: Faith Library, 1973]

“[Man] was created on terms of equality with God, and he could stand in God’s presence without any consciousness of inferiority…God made us as much like Himself as possible…He made us the same class of being that He is Himself…Man lived in the realm of God. He lived on terms equal with God…[The] believer is called Christ…That’s who we are; we’re Christ” (Kenneth Hagin, Zoe: The God-Kind of Life, 1989. pp. 35-36, 41)

One of the major problems that word of faith believers have to cope with is the need to keep trying to reassure themselves that they are gods.. That means having to try to live up to an elevated level of a god. Whose heights are so high, and the air so thin that they almost fall over with the sheer magnitude of their boasting.

Now to be fed a daily dose like the above teachings that one can be in the very same class as God. He can do what God does; speak as God does, use the same faith as God does, Create as God does. God himself is more like us. It all becomes a heavy opium of positive emotions that few can resist, a positivity that is centered around oneself and specifically on ones confession. But the need to keep bolstering this image has to be a daily battle.

In The Force of Love, another sermon tape, Kenneth Copeland states, “You don’t have a god in you, you are one.“

Earl Paulk of the Harvester Church in Atlanta, Georgia, in his work, Satan Unmasked, explains it like this: “Adam and Eve were placed in the world as the seed and expression of God. Just as dogs have puppies and cats have kittens, so God has little gods; we have trouble comprehending this truth. Until we comprehend that we are little gods, we cannot manifest the kingdom of God” (p. 97).

Cats and dogs may reproduce, but God did not copulate in order to create man. Such foolishness is astounding.

In his book Agony of Deceit, Michael Horton has documented Kenneth Copeland in a 19 July 1987 crusade as saying, “I say this and repeat it so it don’t upset you too bad. When I read in the Bible where He (Jesus ) says, I AM, I say, Yes, I am too!” (p. 268). In John 8:58, I AM is a self proclamation of Jesus own unique Deity from Exodus 3:14, 15.

Few however realize the sheer magnitude and consequences to such teaching, never mind the effect it has on people’s minds. These teachers then live on a constant high that leads them to believe that they have something the rest of us poor lowly creatures don’t. They become full of stinking pride that’s boasts in their position and revelation. If you cant see your own godhead tough luck. They have ascended the height and now dwell in the place of the most high. They have arrived at a revelation where even God himself must submit to their confessions. Their confessions become God. It rules over their universes and they are the gods within that universe. They then have to see themselves as RICH HEALTHY PROSPEROUS and SUCCESSFUL. Never mind the fact that they could be BROKE ILL and anything BUT PROSPEROUS. It does not matter, mind over matter; confession over reality; What they speak forth must become reality.

Living in a world they think has to bow to their confessions. Pride overwhelms them and they can’t be told. That would be embracing a negative confession. The battlefield becomes an issue of negative over the positive. They don’t see that the real issue is truth and error. Sometimes truth can be negative and error seen as positive. That does not matter, being equal to God does. They are towering above the rest of humanity and God help anyone who does not see the world as they do.

Rev 3: 17 Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked:

They boasted a positive confession but the reality was so very different.

Scripture reveals their true reality: POOR WRETCHED AND BLIND.

Rev 3: 18-19 I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and [that] the shame of thy nakedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.

How many of these prosperity teachers would relate such negative statements as this apostle has?. It was not in their confession or even in their goods, but in their relationship with God. You can be poor materially but still be rich in the things of God,

1 Cor 4: 11-13 Even unto this present hour we both hunger, and thirst, and are naked, and are buffeted, and have no certain dwelling place. And labour, working with our own hands: being reviled, we bless; being persecuted, we suffer it: Being defamed, we intreat: we are made as the filth of the world, [and are] the off scouring of all things unto this day.

Can we see any of the Word of faith teachers today relate to such a testimony? It’s hard to see oneself as a god when one is poor, imprisoned hungry and thirsty.

In the end if they take their confession to its obvious conclusions they are left with a superstitious belief where a negative confession has to be immediately replaced by a positive one. As the tongue is such an unruly member a confession blurted out in the heat of the moment is still a confession. Negative confessions may bring sickness and even death. But a positive one will acquire for them all that THEY WANT. It is not a matter of surrendering one’s life to God but that creation has to surrender to them. The focus becomes self rather than God.

In the end fear becomes the solitary agreement that a negative confession might lead them to their undoing. So they are forever watching what they say lest the power in their tongues brings them to their own destruction.

God has made it clear HE WILL NOT SHARE HIS GLORY WITH ANOTHER.

He stands unique and alone as the ONE TRUE GOD. He will have no rivals, no competition. Kingdoms may come and go, but his will stand forever. Men will live and die but he cannot. Men can boast of their achievements but God alone brings all his plans to success. A life is but for a moment But God alone is immortal and eternal. Men may place their faith in themselves but the arm of the flesh will fail them.

Humility is the enemy of such teachers. The stark reminder that our faith must forever rest in Gods will. It is not in the heavy heights we find God but on our knees in humility and the realization that we cannot, but he can. The stark reality not my will be done but his.

James 4: 10 humble yourselves in the sight of the Lord, and he shall lift you up

It does not say lift yourself up!!!!

Here is an interesting quote from another article that I had to quote from. I cannot underestimate the dangers of this philosophy. It’s well worth reading the whole article to capture what the writer sharing.

“Faith in Doctrines of Demons (1 Timothy 4:1-5) leads to Fear and Death!
Guilt is generally brought about by the tension generated when one was positively confessing but getting no results. According to the Word-Faith position, no results equals lack of faith or open sin in one’s life. This can, and usually does, cause excessive introspection and a tremendous guilt feelings. Sometimes the guilt is real and needs to be dealt with, but often there is no reason for the feelings. Whatever the person was positively confessing was not in God’s plan and He is not going to bring it about.

Fear comes from two areas. First is the obsessive compulsion to be positive in every word. Even using phrases such as “I’m just dying to do that” or “that joke just tickled me to death,” release satanic powers, say the Word-Faith teachers (The Tongue – A Creative Force, p. 90-92). People become afraid that they are going to slip up, utter a negative word, and give a place to Satan. Secondly, fear is a corollary to the guilt mentioned above. Fear and guilt usually work in a downward spiral. One feels guilty because of supposed lack of faith, then afraid because the confession is not “working.” Then there is more guilt, then more fear, and so on down into further despair. This cycle can be extremely spiritually and physically debilitating. All of these spiritual and psychological difficulties can be directly attributed to elevating man to the false position of being a god and saying that he has powers far greater than he really does.” Source http://watchmanforjesus.blogspot.co.uk/2010/02/truth-and-danger-about-word-faith.html

The writer is absolutely correct in his observation.

One more recent worshiper of the faith teachings had this to say :

God had become a man,and ceases to be God. Jesus was a man,and the Bible says that God became a man and ceases to become God, for He,who is God left His powers and set aside His status and Being as God. Jesus was 100% human.

The ramification is that if God ceased to be God then he is no longer God. Gods immutability is called into question. Yet at the same time the Word of faith teaches exalt themselves as gods, elevating man whilst denigrating God. They blur the distinction between the two. However history has always shown that men who come to proclaim their own deity begin to come under the judgement of God. Pharaoh and even the emperor of Rome were often smitten with such delusions and we know how they ended up.

Jer 17: 5 Thus saith the LORD; Cursed [be] the man that trusteth in man, and maketh flesh his arm, and whose heart departeth from the LORD

When men place their faith in their faith rather than in the God of their faith they are destined to fail. Man can no more save himself by their confessions than raise the titanic in its original condition. It’s not a matter of not seeing the truth but their pride stops them wanting to see the truth.

Some have tried to take this teaching to its obvious conclusion and suffered humiliation and defeat. Nor was it a lack of faith in their part. It was only where they tried to place their faith that was the problem. Their stubbornness and unwillingness to see that the fruit was rotten led to countless sufferings and death.

The name of DR HOBART FREEMAN will live on in infamy. He was a Word of Faith teacher & pastor of Faith Assembly – over 90 people died in his church following his teaching and then Hobart died due to a medically treatable disease.

Many of those who came out of this experience have been emotionally traumatized..

THE EVENTUAL REALIZATION THAT WHAT THEY CONFESS THEY DON’T POSSESS!!!

We have seen enough evidence to conclude that the Word-Faith message is a dangerous soul-destroying heresy that simply does not work. It is a body of presumptuous teachings that lacks the authority of the Word of God. It is a system of thinking that has been generated by a group of men drawing from each others teachings with an amalgamation of Christian theology, mysticism and Gnosticism bound together by one of the most fanciful methods of Scripture interpretation ever devised. All of this is buttressed by a mutual admiration society among the most popular of the Word-Faith teachers that admonishes critics to “touch not the Lord’s anointed,” often under dire threats of divine displeasure.

The Watchman Ministry has coined this heresy very well, because it is SOUL DESTROYING.

If you want to read some testimonies by people who have come out of this teaching press

UCMINISTRIES: In order for there to be a world government you must have a catalyst upon which the world will be motivated to unite.  Such a catalyst must include an imminent and perceived danger that ones very way of life has to be in on the verge of extinction.  That threat will be one of many issues which the world will feel the need to unite.  Inevitable there has to be an individual around which that rallying cry will draw people.

The Bible calls this man the man of sin.  He will be charismatic and bold.  The very opposite of the one who rode humbly into Jerusalem on a borrowed donkey.  The one who came in his father name will be ridiculed by the man who will come in his own name.  The world will fall in love with this new messiah.  For a messiah is how he will be perceived.  For a time he will do what other could not do.  The world will grow sick of petty needless wars and long for a peace at any cost.

 John 5: 43 I am come in my Father’s name, and ye receive me not: if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive

But at what cost? 

If a man takes a journey he needs to know where that journey will take him.  The motive might start of as being courageous good and noble.  But the end may be one of darkness confusion and pain.  Somewhere along the road the journey gets hijacked.

What will you give in exchange for your soul?  Satan temptation to Jesus was bow and I will give you all these kingdoms, So we know that the one who is to come will bow to such temptation.  But how will humanity bow?  Oh they will not see satan as that big and nasty rebellious fallen angel ,  He will be well disguised as some angel of light dressed in the most motherly figure that the world can relate to.  How they will fall in love with that illumination.

But what will humanity give in exchange for prosperity and peace?

Will that cost be the offering of their souls?  Will it be a case of give me your veneration, your allegiance, and your soul?  In return peace prosperity and unity will follow?  It has to be a choice so great, so freely given and so final that they will place themselves beyond the pale of Gods grace.

It will be a choice of a unity or chaos.  But a unity not based on Gods principles but mans.  It will be the same message to build a tower of unity of brotherhood and oneness that will reach even to heaven.  It will become a cry that what God  hindered in Genesis, Man  by force of his  own strength will finish .

The following article is indeed a noble thought, a unity against an intolerent enemy.    The journey has started but where will it end?   A journey that is truly being forced upon humanity.

The following comes from a coalition against Islamization of the world

 The World Coalition Against Islamization is partner with ICLA. We warmly recommend our members to subscribe.    http://www.libertiesalliance.org/

I know really deeply different cultures and religions, all have been exterminate without any pity by muslims barbarians. So it is global problem, it should be solved together, Christians, Jews, Hindus, Buddhists and atheists. We all share similar values, USA, european countries, Australia, Canada, Israel, India are all democratic countries. It’s very positive, so we must stand together and fight together.Islam is not only a western problem and we are close civilizations in term of history interactions and evolutions. It is a matter of fact, we have a main problem with correctness language presenting Islam as a “normal” religion, these people using this kind of language, accusing us to be intolerant racists. So the question is also to counter this view, it is a reason why we should build a larger unity. For me it is a question of heart and love. But I should put also the stress on strategy if people don’t understand such feelings.

We should stop to present this freedom war as a kind of crusade. It’s a way to change the opinion against an exclusive western anti Islam, it must be a global freedom anti Islam front. Christians, Jews, Hindus, Buddhists, Atheists together, this time we will be listen. No doves will reply anymore, we are intolerant or racist and many “correctness birds” right or left will join us. We are sometime very backward in the west, because it’s been a long time our Jewish and Hindu friends have built together a strong brotherhood. It’s time for all to march in the same steps, without proselytism.

Our purpose is not to convert people to any religion or to be a party. I would support anyone understanding Islam as lethal and totalitarian ideology for all. Our duty as members of the same mankind is to work together against a threat that should be a concern for all. Islam is also the cause of unbearable oppression to women, young girls and homosexuals. Our single purpose is to defend life and freedom for all. I don’t want any discrimination between us. UNITED WE STAND, DIVIDED WE FALL. Contact Jean-Luc STUMPF: 33628305260

Such terms as the BROTHERHOOD, HUMANITY, ONENESS ,GLOBAL, UNITY , will take on strong meanings.  The danger has to be real for this to work.  After two great world wars one of the major lessons to come out of those wars was that we could not fight a war using medieval tactics against modern weaponry.  But now perceive a political and religious ideology that’s steeped in primitive medieval thinking suddenly getting hold of modern nuclear and biological weapons.  The end result would not just be cataclysmic but life itself would truly be on the verge of extinction.  So we will see not just a political drive but also a global drive towards a unity of the survival of the species.  In the end it will not matter if the threat would or could be carried out, the very fact that the world will be convinced of the threat to be real will be enough.  So in the name of survival those who do not embrace this new humanity will soon become the enemy of humanity.  I suspect many within Islam itself will embrace what is to come.  The new humanity of a one world government will always be a bad mixture of what Daniel saw as the Iron and clay.  

The iron hand alongside the sinfulness of humanity. 

The brutality of legalism  and the weakness of sinful man.  Brutality will be expounded in the name of peace.  Execution as an act of mercy.  Cruelty an expression of Love.  Such will be the twisted ideals of a humanity gone mad.  The final completion of the tower that was started in Genesis is finally completed at the end of the age.  Such will be the boldness of this man of sin that he will be able to shake his fist at God and convince the world that together they will be able to conquer even the very throne of God if so desired.  That’s why the psalmist could say.

Ps 2: 1– 5  Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing.  The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers take counsel together, against the LORD, and against his anointed, [saying], Let us break their bands asunder, and cast away their cords from us. He that sitteth in the heavens shall laugh: the Lord shall have them in derision. Then shall he speak unto them in his wrath, and vex them in his sore displeasure.

God’s word is the only word that will stand secure.

Ps 2: 6 Yet have I set my king upon my holy hill of Zion.  I will declare the decree: the LORD hath said unto me, Thou [art] my Son; this day have I begotten thee.

It is not Islam that is destined to win the globe, but ethically an antichrist religion devoid of true humanity, love compassion, tolerance and peace.  But it will be put forward in the name of such virtues.

Whilst this description can and does reflect Islam in part, the reality is that the world, including Moslems are more than ever aware of Islam’s shortcomings.   

If Islam conquered the world there would only be Iron.  But the last great empire has to be a mixture of both Iron and clay.  United and yet never truly one.

The violence and intolerance of Islam is as hurtful to Islam as it is to those who reject Islam.  No what is to come has to include all creeds faiths organisations.  The concept of a united unity of all religions and governments that are forced to unite against a common foe .  One but never truly one.  Mixed and yet still separated. Only United because of the common enemy.  The one enemy that will inevitable reject such a unity will be the true bible believing Christianity.  We will refuse to contribute to this modern tower of Babel.

NOR WILL BE BOW TO ONE WHO MOCKS AND DERIDES OUR SAVIOUR.