Muslim abuser who ‘didn’t know’ that sex with a girl of 13 was illegal is spared jail.

Posted: January 26, 2013 in Islam
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UCMINISTRIES When I first read this story it took about three seconds to realize the full complexity of what has just happened.  The question is does anyone else see the full horror that is before us?   Just as one would drop a stone into a pond you begin to see the ripples move outward.  Mr Rashid may be a very small stone being dropped into the pond of British society.  But the ramification spread far and wide.

Let’s get the basics story line:

  • Adil Rashid admitted travelling to Nottingham and having sex with the girl
  • He met the 13-year-old on Facebook and they communicated by texts and phone for two months before they met
  • He was educated in a madrassa and ‘had little experience of women’
  • Said he had been taught ‘women are no more worthy than a lollipop that has been dropped on the ground’
  • Added he was reluctant to have sex but that he was ‘tempted by [the girl]’

A muslim who raped a 13-year-old girl he groomed on Facebook has been spared a prison sentence after a judge heard he went to an Islamic faith school where he was taught that women are worthless.

Adil Rashid, 18, claimed he was not aware that it was illegal for him to have sex with the girl because his education left him ignorant of British law.

Yesterday Judge Michael Stokes handed Rashid a suspended sentence, saying: ‘Although chronologically 18, it is quite clear from the reports that you are very naive and immature when it comes to sexual matters.’     Earlier Nottingham Crown Court heard that such crimes usually result in a four to seven-year prison sentence.   But the judge said that because Rashid was ‘passive’ and ‘lacking assertiveness’, sending him to jail might cause him ‘more damage than good’. Rashid, from Birmingham, admitted he had sex with the girl, saying he had been ‘tempted by her’ after they met online.

They initially exchanged messages on Facebook before sending texts and chatting on the phone over a two-month period. They then met up in Nottingham, where Rashid had booked a room at a Premier Inn.  The girl told police they stayed at the hotel for two hours and had sex after Rashid went to the bathroom and emerged wearing a condom.

Rashid then returned home and went straight to a mosque to pray. He was arrested the following week after the girl confessed what had happened to a school friend, who informed one of her teachers. He told police he knew the girl was 13 but said he was initially reluctant to have sex before relenting after being seduced. Earlier the court heard how Rashid had ‘little experience of women’ due to his education at an Islamic school in the UK, which cannot be named for legal reasons.

After his arrest, he told a psychologist that he did not know having sex with a 13-year-old was against the law. The court heard he found it was illegal only when he was informed by a family member. In other interviews with psychologists, Rashid claimed he had been taught in his school that ‘women are no more worthy than a lollipop that has been dropped on the ground’.  When Judge Stokes said Rashid ‘must have known it was illegal, unless he was going round with his eyes shut’, defence lawyer Laban Leake said reports suggested Rashid had a ‘degree of sexual naivety’. ‘The school he attended, it is not going too far to say, can be described as a closed community and on this occasion this was perpetuated by his home life.

It is not too far to say that he may not have known that having sex with a 13-year-old girl was illegal.’ Judge Stokes sentenced Rashid to nine months youth custody, suspended for two years, along with a two-year probation supervision order. Describing Rashid, the judge said: ‘He’s had an unusual education, certainly in terms of the sexual education provided. Comparing women to lollipops is a very curious way of teaching young men about sex.’

But he said that Rashid knew what he was doing was wrong.

‘It was made clear to you at the school you attended that having sexual relations with a woman before marriage was contrary to the precepts of Islam,’ he said. Addressing Rashid, the judge said: ‘I accept this was a case where the girl was quite willing to have sexual activity with you. But the law is there to protect young girls, even though they are perfectly happy to engage in sexual activity.’

Source : http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2268395/Adil-Rashid-Paedophile-claimed-Muslim-upbringing-meant-didnt-know-illegal-sex-girl-13.html#ixzz2J5wSuhVG

Now the police are investigating Jimmy Savile and his many celebrity friends.  If anything it has been a naming it and shaming routine for many, even though no conviction has been pursued at this present moment.  Now here we have a 18-year-old Moslem who is prosecuted for rape and what is pedophilia.  What makes this story a truly horrific is that the man in question falls back on his religious upbringing.    Two very prominent statements struck me immediately on what this young man was  being taught in his closed community.

Women are no more worthy than a lollipop that has been dropped on the ground.

Judge heard he went to an Islamic faith school where he was taught that women are worthless.

What sort of community teaches their children that women are worthless?  Seriously folks what sort of mental image does a child grow up with.  Condition to see women as some sort of object thats worthless.

Now according to the paper the school he went to can’t be name for legal reasons WHY NOT?  Are the police actively investigating?  In fact, why unlike Savile and his celebrity friends there no naming and shaming of the school in question?

The Most frightening aspect here, are there more students  like Adil Rashid  out there who have been taught that women are WORTHLESS.  In fact who is to say that in a few years time we will have a whole community of men whose basic beliefs is that women in general are nothing more than something you scrape of your shoe.  Believe me the possibility is very frightening for the future. The rights of women in Moslems countries are not good.  When someone is seen as worthless then violence against them becomes more acceptable, and more justifiable.

 The question that should be raised is this school still operating under their present mandate and if so why?  If this school is teaching such ideology then questions need to be asked on all levels of this society. Now I can’t help wondering that if this was anything other than a Moslem faith school the police  the newspapers and social services and even Parliament will be banging down their door for answers.  Does anyone hear anything from the news right now?

   Now  when you hear of some of the unrealistic naivety that other Moslem countries churn out  you might just begin to grasp the possibilities as to what might be round the corner for this country.

Saudis fear there will be ‘no more virgins’ and people will turn gay if female drive ban is lifted  

 The astonishing report comes after Shaima Jastaniya, a 34-year-old Saudi woman, was sentenced to 10 lashes with a whip after being caught driving in Jeddah.There has been strong protest in the country about the sentence – and about the law generally. But resistance to reform and change remains strong among conservative royals and clerics.

Source Daily mail

Let us not forget the absurdity of the Olympic games when Iranian Paralympic athlete refused to shake the Duchess of Cambridge’s hand.  All because she was a woman.

Such superstitious fear might be forgiven if this was the product of some simply mind, but when you have leading clerics coming out with such foolishness what then?  For women in Britain the right to drive is a basic human right.  Yet we would have private schools teachings their children that women are predominantly nothing better than a throw away lollypop.  Is this not a denial of such human rights?   The impact upon a nation if left could indeed be devastating unless there is a quick U-turn.  Islam fundamentalism is steeped in a seventh century mindset.  The desire for society and women in general to be regressed back to some medieval dark ages is clearly unacceptable.

In a recent book on the subject of Islamic violence against women this brief except speaks volumes.  Whilst I might not agree with every point it raises some serious questions.

Violence against women in Arab and Islamic countries

In Arab and Islamic countries, domestic violence is not yet considered a major concern despite its increasing frequency and serious consequences. Surveys in Egypt, Palestine, Israel and Tunisia show that at least one out of three women is beaten by her husband. The indifference to this type of violence stems from attitudes that domestic violence is a private matter and, usually, a justifiable response to misbehaviour on the part of the wife. Selective excerpts from the Koran are used to prove that men who beat their wives are following God’s commandments. These religious justifications, plus the importance of preserving the honour of the family, lead abusers, victims, police and health care professionals to join in a conspiracy of silence rather than disclosing these offences. However, a fair reading of the Koran shows that wife abuse, like genital mutilation and “honour killings” are a result of culture rather than religion.

Source  :  http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007%2Fs00737-003-0170-x?LI=true#

My view is that it is not just cultural but also remains in part religious.  I am reminded of a story that was reported in the papers of a Moslem couple who came to blows a few years back.  The husband was a Moslem teacher at university in Germany,   His wife was not prepared to abandoned her love for western lifestyle which she felt was more relaxed.  As the Husband was raining blow upon blows upon her, he quoted from the Koran as justification for his right to beat her to a pulp.  Thankfully the German police disagreed and arrested the husband for assault.

 I believe this was the verse in question::

Koran 4: 34 Pickthal: Men are in charge of women, because Allah hath made the one of them to excel the other, and because they spend of their property (for the support of women). So good women are the obedient, guarding in secret that which Allah hath guarded. As for those from whom ye fear rebellion, admonish them and banish them to beds apart, and scourge them. Then if they obey you, seek not a way against them. Lo! Allah is ever High, Exalted, Great.

Now compare that with what the Bible says:

1 Peter 3: 7 Likewise, ye husbands, dwell with [them] according to knowledge, giving honour unto the wife, as unto the weaker vessel, and as being heirs together of the grace of life; that your prayers be not hindered.

There is a clear difference between the two.

It has been shown that when rights are diminished for either cultural or religious reasons violence against such individuals follows.

Comments
  1. No sooner has this piece of information has crossed my desk that another/ piece of news has arrived. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2091669/Sunny-Islam-Strict-Muslim-raped-4-women-knifepoint-punish-them.html

    A Muslim man who raped women to ‘teach them a lesson’ for being on the streets at night was jailed indefinitely today because of the danger he poses to women.

    Sunny Islam, 23, who comes from a strict Muslim family, dragged his terrified victims – including a 15-year-old – from the street at knifepoint, bound and assaulted them during a two-month reign of terror.

    Police fear that Islam may have attacked many more.

    Three of the assaults took place close to his home in Barking, east London, while a fourth occurred in nearby Forest Gate.

    Judge Patricia Lees, sentencing him to a minimum of 11 years, said: ‘The harm you have done to your victims is incalculable.

    ‘The nature and extent of these offences drives me to the conclusion that you represent an extreme and continuing danger to women, particularly those out at night.’

    He was traced through the number plate of his girlfriend’s car after he kidnapped and raped the 15-year-old in September 2010.

    He grabbed her from behind as she walked home with a friend and bundled her into the car at knifepoint before driving to a secluded spot where he raped her twice despite her claiming she was only 11 years old.

    Judge Lees said: ‘You told her you were going to “teach her a lesson”, and similar things were said to the other women.

    ‘Those words are a chilling indictment of your very troubling attitude towards all of these victims.

    ‘You seem to observe women out at night as not deserving respect or protection.

    As one victim replied “‘He treated me like an animal and made me feel WORTHLESS – I thought I was going to die.’

    now where have we just heard that ?

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  3. I have more concern for the British legal system which is apparently just as dismissive of the young girl in this case. We kind of expect to hear terrible stories of the rape and abuse of women in muslim countries because their laws treat women as objects. What is more appalling is that the judge here seems to be sympathetic to these laws, or at the very least, treats the man in question as though he was some poor victim rather than rejecting the actions and judging the motivations. I really don’t care what his background and beliefs are. Any mentality which treats women as though they were commodities rather than human beings needs to be taught that they are wrong. There is a profound dysfunction present in British society if their laws fail to punish actions and instead allow a measure of impunity to somebody they consider to be a victim of a restrictive upbringing. All they are doing is rewarding this young man’s stupidity. I would not call it naivete.

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