Rhema , its failure to be Gods perfect word

Posted: November 17, 2011 in Kenneth Copeland, Kenneth Hagin (rhema)
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Kenneth Hagin took what was an obscure Greek word and turned it into an idol.  Many within the Pentecostal movement then went and bowed down before this idol,    Hundreds were decieved by this man.  Only God knows the eternal consequences for Kenneth Hagin and the many who have chosen to follow this man.

EVOLUTION OF GNOSTISIM

The concept of the “rhema” became the flagship of Hagins doctrines.  Just about everything was built on this.  Today we can have Rhema FM radio, Rhema ranch, Rhema Theatre Company a rhema Basketball team, and rhema churches with rhema boys and girls clubs.

The famous saying spoken by many is that “God has a rhema word for you

BY DEFINITION:  THE RHEMA IS A SPECIFIC WORD FROM GOD TO A SPECIFIC PERSON AT A SPECIFIC TIME.  If we keep this in mind when looking at the evidence which I will present, we will see this definition does not hold true. Others make a clear difference in so far as rhema is specifically that which is spoken, while logos are purely the written word of God.  Again keep this in mind as we proceed.

Acts 16:6-7 is presented as an example of this case.

Now when they had gone throughout Phrygia and the region of Galatia, and were forbidden of the Holy Ghost to preach the word (logos) in Asia, After they were come to Mysia, they assayed to go into Bithynia: but the Spirit suffered them not

(a)The Holy Spirit forbid Paul and his companions to enter Asia.  This would be seen as the rhema word (Specific to Paul) and yet it is not rhema that gets used but LOGOS.  Notice also that it was spoken by the Holy Spirit and not written.

(b)The great commission to preach the gospel was still relevant to all.  So this would be seen as a logos word.  (General to all Christians)

The Bible then becomes a book which contains general information applicable to all but not necessarily specific guidance. While rhema became the voice of God to the believer at any present moment.  The believer was then guided by specific words, experiences, impressions and inner feelings.  Many Pentecostals and Charismatic leaders were led to embrace this subjective definition and thus separate their experiences on a day to day basis from that which was contained within the scriptures.  By doing this Hagin laid down a new world view that presented to the church the Bible (logos) and the prophetic (rhema)

Suddenly God now speaks with two prophetic words rather than one.  Like all modern teaching you can guess which took precedence over the other.  This allowed Hagin the freedom to expound teachings not included in scripture, all in the guise of the New NOW prophetic word.  The Bible was yesterday’s news.  Today we have the rhema prophetic word to guide us.

So Hagin under the guise of the (rhema) prophetic word introduced such teachings:

  1. 1.    Christ’s physical death on the cross was not enough to save us… 
  2. 2.    How Jesus tasted spiritual death…
  3. 3.    Jesus was tortured by demons for three days before God declared from heaven its enough
  4. 4.    Christian is as much the incarnation of God as was Jesus… 
  5. 5.    Man was created on terms of equality with God…
  6. 6.    He made us in the same class of being as he is himself..
  7. 7.    Man lives on terms equal with God…
  8. 8.    Believer is called Christ….

 Hundreds if not thousands have been influenced by this Teacher.  In 2004 Kenneth Hagin died and was superseded by his son Kenneth Hagin Jnr.

Foundations of this teaching stands or falls with Hagin sen.  He stands if his teaching on rhema stands.  There is without doubt Hagin preached another gospel and another Jesus.  Who knows the eternal consequences of those who embraced his teachings.

Now making a statement on to this fact is not the same as proving it.  My aim it to prove that Hagin did not have the slightest understanding of the Greek let alone scripture.

 REVELATION KNOWLEDGE VERSES SENSE KNOWLEDGE

The Mormon Church have their book of Mormon, The Jehovah Witnesses have their New World Translation.  So Hagin had his rhema word.  This became the excuse for extra Biblical revelation.  A subtle poison that has been slowly poisoning the church for the last 50 years.  Natural anyone who came along and disagreed with this new interpretation would be branded as someone who did not have “revelation knowledge” but “sense knowledge.” 

SENSE KNOWLEDGE:  Term used by Hagin to demean those who hold to an understanding of scripture.  That makes the Bible the benchmark upon which all and any revelation must be judged.

REVELATION KNOWLEDGE: Term used by Hagin to express superiority over those who hold to the Bible.

(Rick Joyners  prophecy of a coming civil war in the church between what he calls the blues and the greys is a direct descendent of these ideas.  The Blues are those who hold to revelation knowledge (extra biblical material) and the Greys who hold to the Bible as the sole authority in all matters of faith.

Hagin Cosmetic exercises.

Hagin  related numerous visions to  explain his new revelations.  However he could not be seen to abandon scripture entirely.  He still had to appear to embrace the Bible and use it to explain his new revelations.  All the while undermining what it taught.  Today this hardly matters as few hardly read the Bible never mind understand it.  Today Hagin’s fruit has so matured that it no longer matters what scripture says on a certain matter.  Many simply grab apostle so and so and whatever he drivels out are automatically seen as truth.

So rhema quickly superseded scripture and superseded the interpretation of scripture. This allowed those who had embraced this concept to look down upon those mere Bible believers who clung onto their Bibles. Whilst claiming the freedom to embrace new extra Biblical teachings via so called revelation. 

IN THE SHOES OF THE EARLY APOSTLES

We are going to go back to the first century and speak to those who knew and spoke Greek.  They are going to teach us how this word was used in comparison to Logos.

The Old Testament scriptures were the written word upon which the early apostles would have used. The New Testament was only beginning to be written a few years after Paul had established his pastoral churches.  Paul received the word he preached by revelation.  This would have meant that the use of this Greek word “rhema” should have been the most common word used especially in the book of Acts.   Remember HAGIN BELIEVED THAT RHEMA IS THE SPECIFIC WORD SPOKEN TO AN INDIVIDUAL OR GROUP OF PEOPLE AT ANY GIVEN TIME.  So what was the New Testament then?  Was the New Testament not the new revealed word to the world at that time?  Was it not preached to the Jews on the day of Pentecost?  Was it not preached to a specific group of people?  We must remember that long before Paul wrote his epistles he had already preached the word to those who heard it.    When He wrote his epistles were they not also specific in their message to those churches.  So where then is this word rhema.  How did the early apostles use this Greek word?  Could it be they knew something we don’t?

 The use of Logos and rhema as the written word

Scripture God’s revealed word

No one would dispute the fact that logos is used (Acts 1:1 Logos word) to describe the written word.  Few however realise that rhema is also used to describe the written word.

God testimony about his written word

 2 Tim. 3:16-17All scripture is given by inspiration

Inspiration (Strong’s 2315) means “God breathed, divinely inspired”

It is therefore excepted that all scripture is God breathed and is therefore God’s revelation to man.  Just as God breathed the breath of life into Adam, so God continues to breathe life into his word the Bible.

Romans 1:16For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ for it is the power of God unto salvation to everyone that believeth

So his word is not only God breathed and inspired by God, but it also contains in its message the power to save.  The gospel is often that which is preached, it is a verbal message inspired and empowered creatively by God to come to a divine end, the saving of souls.

Hebrews 1:1-2God who at sundry times and in divers manners spoke in times past unto the fathers by the prophets”

Clearly the Bible is no run of the mill newsletter.  It holds the contents of God’s prophetic word to man and his dealings with man.  It is an affront to declare that in all this time what God has prophetically declared before now has been “general” and “Mundane” . 

God has never spoken anything in general or vague tones.  How can anyone say that what is now spoken prophetically is now superior to what God has previously spoken prophetically?

Romans 15:4Written for our admonition

1 Cor 10:11Admonition and example

2 Cor 12:7GOSPEL CAME BY DIRECT REVELATION

 The Bible is God’s standard and plum line on faith, life and works.  It is still relevant for you and I today.  This is God’s revealed word to the world.

Romans 15:4Written for our comfort, for producing faith, hope, growth

See also 1 Peter 2:2.  Acts 20:32. 1 Thess 2:13

2 Tim 3:16-17Profitable for doctrine reproof, correction, instruction in righteousness

 Scripture therefore speaks specifically to every part of our lives.  It is still relevant for yesterday, today and for tomorrow.  Any suggestion that it is substandard must personally reflect upon God himself who is the author of this word. 

 No man has the right to pick and choose which scriptures are applicable and those that are not.  Yet scripture is a unique piece of divine revelation in that scripture can interpret scripture.  Scripture can teach us what is relevant and what is not.  For example we no longer sacrifice animals because Jesus is that one final sacrifice.  We know that because scripture explains itself.

 Hebrews 13:22I have written a Letter unto you in a few words” (rhema)

The letter in question is the Book of Hebrews.

So here the word rhema is used to speak about what has been written down.  That word we now know as the book of Hebrews.

Letter (Strong’s 1989) “Communicate by letter” is the root word for (1992) which we derive the word epistle.   This same word for (1992) epistle is used in 1 Thess5: 27 “I charge you by the Lord that this epistle be read unto all the holy brethren

The word epistle is used in relation to the books of Acts, Romans, both books of Corinthians, Colossians, and Both Books of Thessalonians, Timothy, and Peter. In the book of Revelation the Apostle John is told to write down what he sees and hears (Rev 1:19 write 1125) This word is also used in the Book of Jude and the epistles of John (1 John 1:4)

 Luke when he came to write the Book of (Acts 1:1) chooses to use the word “Treatise”, which in the Greek is the word  “logos

Eph 3:3-4How that by revelation he made known unto me the mystery, as I wrote(4270) afore in a few words (rhema) whereby when ye read ye may understand…”

2 Cor 10:11Let such a one think this that, such as we are in word (logos) by letters when we are absent such will also be in deed when we are present

Hebrews uses the word rhema 

Ephesians uses the word rhema                               Bible (written word)

Corinthians uses the word logos

Acts uses the word logos

 They are all used to describe the “same” written word.

So any attempt to elevate one word above another must also reflect upon how that word is used in scripture.  Would that mean that some books are more inspired than others? 

We are told that “ALL SCRIPTURE IS GOD BREATHED” irrespective of what Greek word gets used.  There is no 1st 2nd or 3rd class letters from God.  But not all scripture has the same relevance e.g. Romans 7:1- “Released from the law” Hebrews 8:1- Old and New Covenant.  This brings us to another aspect.. The prophetic word.

The prophetic word

Old Testament

The Old Testament is full of prophecies concerning Israel and the Messiah Jesus.  Many of those have already been fulfilled, but there are also many that are still to be fulfilled.

Should we classify what is still to be fulfilled as logos and what has been fulfilled as rhema?

 Matthew 15:4 “For God commanded saying (lego) “Honour thy Father and mother…” Remember that lego is a root word for logos.

 This was a direct spoken command from God (no higher inspired prophetic authority) to Moses upon the MT Sinai.  Jesus himself and Matthew recorded it as so.  So why would such a word as “lego” be used to describe such a momentous meeting between God and his prophet Moses?

Did Matthew NOT realise the importance of such a meeting, who spoke and to whom did God speak?  What was spoken was it mundane, past relevance to the people Jesus spoke to?

Was it?

 Root words: We often have words for example “pneumatic”, as in tyre or drill, this word comes from a root word – “Pneuma” This is the same Greek word for “spirit and breath wind.”  So in the Greek and because the English is influenced by many Greek words we often have words which have a root word to them.

 Luke 3:14Word (logos) of Isaiah” ( fulfilled)

Acts 15:15Word (logos) of Prophets”(fulfilled)

John 12:38Sayings (logos) of Isaiah the prophet” (fulfilled)

See also Jn 10:33 (logos)

2 Peter 3:2 “That ye may be mindful of the words (rhema) which were spoken before by the Holy Prophets and the commandments of us the prophets of the Lord and saviour” (fulfilled)

 The subject matter of the previous scriptures is the same written word we are now reading

In the use of the above scripture the writers have chosen to use both rhema and logos in reference to:

The word that has already been given and what has already been written.

Clearly Isaiah the prophet proclaimed God’s word which in the New Testament was fulfilled

The fact it was fulfilled did not see the writers of the New Testament try to re-categorise the prophecy into a new category.  They still used the word logos to describe a prophetic event.

If we try to force the issue by separating the writing logos into the spoken prophetic word rhema as some today would suggest.  Many will fail to notice the injustice and the prophetic significance of Christ birth and death was to achieve.  There are no mere 2nd or 3rd prophecies.

There are only those that are fulfilled and those that are still to be fulfilled, but they are all prophetically important.

 For more information.  Look up this subject on my BOX FILES (top right hand corner) For the “FINAL EXPOSURE OF THE RHEMA WORD”  which contains the rest of this article.

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Comments
  1. You are on to something quite good here. I also did a study on logos and rhema for myself based on comments similar to yours that I had come across. I ended up with a 70 pages article on it. I appreciate your Berean spirit.

  2. Spencer says:

    You can’t properly speak against a doctrine or a man of God when you are obviously unknowledgeable on what Hagin taught and believed. I have seen the same thing in Ron Rhodes book “Correcting The Cults” in where he doesn’t even get the doctrine correct. I can name specific teaching albums like “Doing the Works Of Jesus” where Hagin says Jesus is in a class by himself but his works were not and he sites John 14:12 to prove this. Regardless of picking over greek words how can you get around passages like Mark 11:12-26 and Luke 8:22-25 where Jesus instructs us to speak to problems (things/mountains) in our lives and even rebukes the disciples for not speaking to the storm in the Luke 8 passage? Is Jesus wrong for expecting us to do this?

    • holyghostman says:

      If we could speak things into being we would be gods. Matter of fact why would we need god any way! Your poster child Kenneth Copeland has made millions off of the mountain moving faith just speak it and you will have what you say but what if it is not gods will.

      • holyghostman says:

        We must remember that we are more than conquers in christ Jesus. He is the chief corner stone. The focus must always be on him. We are victorous in him and Satan was defeated on the cross. 2000 yrs ago. If anyone out there is having problems whether financial, need healing or what ever, don’t let the enemy pick on you any longer. Fight back! Take the authority god gave you in christ Jesus. Train every day by reading the word and don’t fall into the devils trap!

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