Back in the era when hippies did their thing, Chuck Smith was one of the leading lights in drawing people to God.  His teaching tapes were very well-known.  I have most of his collection stored somewhere in the house.  Today it would seem that Chuck Smith now joins the vast numbers who have chosen to join with others on the heretical list of people not to be associated with.  His church has quite recently endorsed the Emergent Church movement which is nothing more than unbelief by a pseudo name.  In the video you are about to see Chuck Smith openly endorses Rick Warren.  A man who has been openly exposed as a liar and a heretic.

Chuck Smith and his son found themselves a few years ago according to TODAY magazine Battling in court over control of their own Satellite Network’s.  The litigation involved allegations of financial mismanagement of ministry assists.  Further allegations from senior Pastors have further revealed that Chuck Smith as well as others in Calvary Chapel are dangerously lax in maintaining sexual standards among its leaders.

The quote reads :

These men cannot call sin sin,” says one 20-year veteran pastor. Easy forgiveness, insiders say, has created an atmosphere of sexual license, where some unethical pastors sense that there are few consequences for sexual misconduct.  Additionally, former members and some pastors say Calvary Chapel fosters an authoritarian culture, where pastors believe they are accountable only to God. It has enticed some leaders to become power-hungry, avoid financial oversight, and, at times, become spiritually abusive, according to Calvary insiders.

Roger Oakland a well know advocate of truth has made this comment concerning this issue of Calvary Chapel displaying of Rick Warrens book

“Therefore, my 25 years of experience within the Calvary Chapel movement has provided the opportunity for me to be able to make observations about the Calvary Chapel movement. While this movement is made up of individuals who have various ideas (some are even supportive of Purpose Driven), the leader, Pastor Chuck Smith has made it clear on several occasions that he does not agree with the direction the Purpose Driven movement is headed.”

Yet as we see in this video Chuck invites his “friend” up to the platform.  So whatever Smiths previous concerns regarding Rick Warren, he has changed his position.

 Roger goes on to say

 Further, pastors who attended the nation-wide Calvary Chapel Pastor’s Conferences held at Murrieta, California in either 2005 or 2006 would have heard Pastor Chuck explain in detail that Calvary Chapel pastors are not to be “Purpose Driven”. While there were some in attendance who were leaning towards Purpose Driven methods, Pastor Chuck emphasized Calvary Chapel was not going in that direction

Yet by the evening August 16th 2009 on this video we see a complete U-turn.  That is less than three-year. What has happened in that time?

It has been reported that “on May 5th 2009, Paul Smith, brother of Chuck Smith (the founder of the Calvary Chapel movement), was fired from his position in the Calvary Chapel (CCOF) organization during an unscheduled meeting that day. The motion to fire Paul Smith was made by board member Roger Wing and seconded by Chuck Smith’s son-in-law, Brian Broderson. Other board members affirmed the motion, and Paul Smith was dismissed.

For some time now Paul Smith, who has been in full-time ministry since 1951, has been putting forth tireless efforts to help keep contemplative and emerging spirituality out of the Calvary Chapel movement. At times, this caused conflict with other Calvary Chapel figures who did not resonate with these efforts.

A statement reads:

“Smith’s desire to codify and enforce not only the “Distinctives,” but positions on such matters as “The Shack” and secondary doctrinal issues was at odds with other people in leadership and that eventually cost him his job. Smith was working out of a deep desire to see his brothers legacy remain intact and define what was and wasn’t “Calvary Chapel.”

Another well-known chapel speaker Gayle Erwin has also come out in favour of the new age book the “SHACK” stating

  ““Riveting, with twists that defy your expectations while teaching powerful theological lessons without patronizing. I was crying by page 100. You cannot read it without your heart becoming involved.”

 While previous positions by Smith and Calvary Chapel against such teaching existed in 2006 there appears to be a total turn around by 2009. 

 For those of you that don’t know the SHACK is a deplorable book that presents God as three women.  The Holy Spirit being the name of some Hindu River.  The appeal of the book is that God would take a man back to the shack where his young daughter was raped and killed.  As if God was into more physical abuse.  Its appeals has more to do with the books emotional appeal than any doctrinal accuracy

It has also been stated that while Calvary Chapel denounced the “SHACK”, Gayle Erwin continues to speak at Calvary Chapel

In the summer of 2008 it was also reported that Greg Laurie another well-known speaker and pastor connected to Chuck Smith and Calvary Chapel gave financial support to Rick Warren’s New York Crusade and called the Purpose Driven Movement a move of God.  While this was denied in a statement we can see from the following video dated August 16th 2009 that this was a lie.

It is also believes that what is happening at the Calvary chapel is not a mere accident.  The same thing is happening to almost every evangelical denomination and organization of any size in North America.  The rise of the new spirituality is partly because of the rise of emergent spirituality across Christian colleges and universities.  Biola University, for instance, where many Calvary Chapel pastors have attended and graduated, is deeply involved in this “new spirituality.”

It is also partly due to the influence of such men as Rick Warren and Bill Hybels and the Emergent Church movement.  All of which are heavily trenched in Holistic and mystical practices.

DR Rick Levy has revealed  that in 2008 17 million Americans were practicing meditation (eastern-style). That number is up from 10 million in 2003. At that rate, in another five years it will probably be somewhere between 20 and 25 million. There is no doubt that this surge of mysticism will have a profound effect on virtually every North American family. This statistic is sobering when you consider what Richard Kirby observed:

The meditation of advanced occultists is identical with the prayer of advanced mystics; it is no accident that both traditions use the same word for the highest reaches of their respective activities: contemplation.” (Mission of Mysticism, p. 7)

Mysticism (i.e., the occult) is overtaking all segments of society, and this means that the world is falling under the spell of sorceries (magical arts) that according to the book of Revelation will deceive all nations (Revelation 18:23). 

We close with this: In Reimagining Christianity, by Alan Jones  he talks about a mystical spirituality in which not only all the world’s religions will be united but all humanity will be united whether religious or not. On the back cover of Jones’ book, Brian McLaren claims that this view “stimulates” and “encourages” him “deeply” and that Christianity is moving away from “dogma” (doctrine) toward “authentic spirituality” (mysticism).

With the termination of Paul Smith and the embracing of and teaming up with an emerging church there can be no doubt which road Calvary Chapel is heading down

All of this makes for frightening reading however the worse this appear to get the closer  the return of the Lord Jesus is,  Prophecy is being fulfilled before our very eyes.


  1. Follow up on this video( same crusade) we see the two men Chuck Smith and Rick Warren sitting side by side joking. This comment was posted along with the video

    This video was taken On Stage at Harvest Crusade 2009. Rick Warren and Chuck Smith continued to sit with each other and laugh it up. This truly is heartbreaking for many who have held that Calvary Chapel took a strong stand against the Heresy of Rick Warren. Let this be a sign to you, Many shall fall away and depart from the truth. At this point Calvary Chapel’s across the nation and the world should be in deep prayer for Chuck Smith. Sadly the following day Chuck Smith Sr. had an opportunity to clarify and correct his position of taking the stage with Rick Warren and he did not. He instead said Rick Warren has ‘just been given another gospel, a social gospel.’ See pastors Perspective August 17, 2009 archives. For my blog post click:
    I uploaded this so as to not send people to Rick Warren Affiliated Sites.

  2. Further update on this story :

    The comment which came with this story reads:
    “Thanks Greg Laurie for teaching 4 out of 6 services at Saddleback!” What a friend Greg has in Rick Warren. I think this video speaks for itself. This was taken by a young lad who has an affection for both camps: Purpose Driven Life Heresy (Rick Warren) and Calvary Chapel (Chuck Smith Sr.) This is back stage of Harvest Crusade 2009. I downloaded and uploaded so as to not redirect people back to Rick Warren affiliated sites. You can read the whole blog post at

  3. Jos Bri says:

    Many comments about nothing and innuendo. I do not see any official church position on these assertions. So people on this post are Christian??? Woe!!! some discernment from the hell..definately smell smoke here..

  4. Jos Bri says:

    if this is how u correct and treat ur christian brothers I want no part of u..God help u..taking your brothers and sisters and exposing them on the internet doesn’t sound like love to me..lots of hate here,, sounds more like a gossip not God discernment here

    • 1 Tim 4: 1-2 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;

      You seem to fail to realise the significance of what is taking place. Until 20 years and even probably 5 years ago the great majority of evangelical ministers stood foursquare behind the Bible. Today that is no longer even a debatable question. Many have now publicly and openly follow another Gospel, They preach another Jesus. The Prophecy of 1 Timothy 4 which was written almost 200 years ago is being fulfilled before our very eyes.

      Now Jos Bri if you saw a bridge fall down and before you was a highway of traffic heading for that fallen bridge, Is it more loving to run out and cry STOP STOP STOP. Would it be more loving to try and stop people going down a road that meant inevitable destruction and death? Or would you say as you have suggested stand back, ignore the fallen bridge and hope the fall will not hurt them.

      Can I suggest that it is more hateful to ignore the signs, ignore any responsibility to warn, and allow people to die in their sins?

      Prov 16: 25 There is a way that seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof [are] the ways of death.

      If someone warned you of a dangerous situation would you call that person being hateful or loving towards you?

      As for exposing them on the internet, may I suggest they have already done that already. Where do you think I go the videos from. All I am doing is commenting on them.

      • Aleta Kimbler says:

        In agreement; you are >>”Christians”?!?

        Two men were standing before God. On dressed oh so nice, correct, while another stood, sinful, unkept, without

        One “righteous one” said, I THANK GOD (like you say) that I/we are not as that one.

        While the other one said, God have mercy on me, a sinner.

        God asks, which one is justified?

        When you are used by the Spirit of God to do the work in even HALF the magitude that
        >>>>>>He<<<<<<<< alone has used Calvary Chappel, come back and remind us that you are the sinner asking mercy.

        Go ahead. Cast your stones as you think you are doing a "god" service to mankind and the church.

        God have mercy on you; you will fall down when you see him: not STAND before His side.

        Only man can judge the heart. But you seem to be doing that and tag scripture to it..

  5. Gal 1: 8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. As we said before, so say I now again, If any [man] preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.

    1 Tim 4: 1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;

    Eph 5: 11 And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove [them].

    1 John 4: 1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.

    As long a Chuck Smith associates himself with the likes of Rick Warren then he is a false teacher who has slide into heresy. I do not judge him the word of God does

  6. mijadedios says:

    Thank you for bravely posting my article here.

  7. yosef says:

    Some people just quote the Bible to drive home “their” opinion. They forget to look at the entire Bible for correction and instruction.

    To name names and expose others who are corrupt is Biblical. Read what Paul and others say about some of their contemporaries who departed from the faith or were blocking the propagation of the Gospel. They named them by name. It is very correct and Biblical to expose fakes and wolves in sheep’s clothing.

    A watchman must sound the alarm or he is guilty for the fate of the innocent.

  8. adelmo says:

    should i leave the movement?
    i still see SOUND DOCTRINE in some of the pastors!

    • Mary says:

      In Galatians 6:1, Paul writes: Brethren, even if anyone is caught in any trespass, you who are spiritual, restore such a one in a spirit of gentleness; each one looking to yourself, so that you too will not be tempted.
      So if you are able to do that, then do so, or I would leave. Paul commends the Bereans in Acts 17:11 for searching the scriptures diligently to see if they are true. Be aware that they “twist” the meaning or definition of a word as well (just like the media does!) I recommend talking with your own pastor to see what he believes.

  9. 1Ti 4:1 Now the Spirit expressly says that in latter times some will depart from the faith, giving heed to deceiving spirits and doctrines of demons,

    It grieves me that I am having to do an exposure on Chuck Smith, but we should not be surprised as we have been warned that in the latter days we would indeed see such things.

    The word for “DECIEVING” means

    1) wandering, roving

    2) misleading, leading into error

    a) a vagabond, “tramp”, imposter

    b) corrupter, deceiver

    It is difficult to say how deep this rot goes. Some believe that once Chuck Smith goes there will be a major overhaul. But I am not close enough to say if this will be a for good or not. I trully hope that it will be for good. All I can say is to pray about the situation. I have to believe that there are still good sound Pastors out there even among the Calvary chapel pastors. Let me know how things work out. I am sure there are others who would love to see what happens.

  10. Mary says:

    This is really too sad to hear. I listened to Laurie and others on the radio for many years long ago, and our SBC church did the 40 Days study by Warren. Is there some slim chance that they want to “lure” the muslims in to learn the truth? I think it would be a good thing for them to read the gospels that they claim were corrupted by christians in the Koran. Be aware however, that Jude told us that already as did Peter (2 Pe 3:16) and Paul, and John the elder and Jesus Himself. If you know the Truth, and you read the Koran you can see how it is twisted in their understanding and teaching. They have not had good teachers even as Jesus admonished Nicodemus. I can see how people will be deceived for even one woman I know left her husband and children because Warren’s book said that these were not your true family, but those who you will be in heaven with! Damage done. She is not going to think now that there is anything wrong with what he says. So how are they to come to Christ if she is not there to teach them? Just as well, she might wind up giving them coolaid.

  11. George Ravencroft says:

    If you believe we are in the last days, then don’t be surprised at the number of churches following seducing spirits. It breaks my heart to say it, but it’s hard to find a church where the pastor address the problem of sin and repentance as a necessary part of Salvation. Because the old line denominations never vigorously opposed the modern wolves from the onset of their false teaching they slipped in with impunity. The powers of the air used radio and television to promote the Word of Faith Movement that make man God, The Shepparding Movement enslaves congreations, the Peter Wagner, Rick Joyner crowd who endorsed Todd Bently’s Voo Doo Lakeland Florida revival prefering possession experienced than the peaching of sound doctrine.
    On the softer side of heresy there’s the Joel Osteen type of feel good, life coach type of preachers who make man king. There’s Emergent Church’s social agenda couples good works and eastern thought to deny almost all the sacred doctrines. How about Rick Warren’s Purpose Driven Church Movement where sanctuaries are called campuses, crosses and pulpits are removed, rock concert lights and loud music replace the choir. No sin is preached there, they don’t want to offend anyone. Why? The future merging of false Christianity with other religions has to be accepted.
    How has it come to this? The only reason these liars can twist the truth with great success is because people are too lazy to seek the full counsel of God in His word. “My people perish for a lack of knowledge.” For the most part, prayer has become a to- do-list for God to bring man things he craves, or direct orders in Jesus’ name based upon spiritual laws that obligate God. The Country Club Christian Social Network is too busy to pray, or to study to show themselves approved. They want an interrupter to tickle their ears and flatter their sense of selfishness. The signs and wonders end of the spectrum are unwittingly telling the False Prophet of the anti-Christ The Price is Right so COME ON DOWN! With all the games show enthusiasm of PT Barnum’s suckers they sell their inheritance for a bowl of poison stew.
    The Lord Jesus was recorded as saying something sobering in Mat. 7:13 “13 “Enter by the narrow gate; for wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and there are many who go in by it. Narrow is the gate and difficult is the way which leads to life, and there are few who find it.” Beloved, heed Paul’s advice in 1 Tomothy 4:6 “Watch your life and doctrine closely. Persevere in them, because if you do, you will save both yourself and your hearers.” It would be a shame if the Rapture gathered so few it could be explained away. Pray the Lord send a revival that breaks hearts for what breaks His.

  12. The news is blasting through the Christian world that Calvary Chapel founder Chuck Smith has lung cancer.

    “Please pray for Pastor Chuck Smith, Sr.!” reads Calvary Chapel’s current Facebook status update. “Today it was announced cancer has been found in his lung; there is uncertainty as to the extent. We are expecting to know more regarding prognosis and treatment after Tuesday. Please pass on this request of prayer for him, [Chuck’s wife] Kay, and the rest of the family.”

    According to his son -in law Chuck has a tumour at the bottom of his right lung.
    He is to undergo surgery this week. Lets pray that God intervenes and works in that situation for his glory.

  13. ccgal says:

    Really sad to see facts twisted thin until they can be used to slander someone who has influenced generations to follow the Lord WITH BIBLE IN HAND like Chuck & Greg. You are doing the enemies work to cause conflict within the body of believers so satan can be freed to roam and devour elsewhere. If you were in regular attendance, and not hiding behind a monitor screen you’d hear both preach repentance and turning from one’s sin to follow Christ. God has riches stored in Heaven for Pastor Chuck for all he has done for The Lord’s Kingdom and bringing sinners to faith in Christ. I am a direct benefit of this ^ thank him, not praise him like the catholics do the pope for he is a man, fallible just like you and me.

  14. We should never allow others to discourage us, but to learn even from their mistakes. But also to uplift them in prayer that God will work in the situation. Satan loves to work in the darkness when there is silence , But he cannot stand the light of the truth. So continue to pray for Chuck and Greg. Especially at the present time with chucks health.

  15. trustinthelord says:

    I would becarefull promoting from that site yes it is true what is posted on that site about chuck smith but this indevidual is a trouble maker and a slanderer in other areas

  16. mr says:

    Have you read paul Smith’s new book? It seems as though we all forget that trickery has become a part of everyday life as Rick Warren has done I ,an assure you that as a close personal friend to the smith brothers I grew up in Paul’s church and speak with him almost daily that Pastor Warren came on very smooth and deceitful. They do not endorse him to this day and paul was not fired he had colon cancer and chose a replacement (which his replacement Chris was actually fired) paul was made overseer of all the Calvary chapels to expel the mystic new age Christianity from its ranks. Thank you!

  17. Jeanne Miller says:

    I am so very sad to see this happening to Chuck Smith. I have believed in his brilliance in his ability to promote the gospel

  18. Wolfgang says:

    ALL. True Prophecy speals ONLY exclusivly from Jesus.

    All. Prophecy is of future things.
    But the Resurrection is Fulfillment of the Cross,
    Therefore it is impossible that there be “new” messsages concerning Jesus.
    Therefore ALL so called Prophets today are Liers and Deceivers without Exception as it is written in Zechariah
    First is spoken of Jesus in Zech 13:1
    And then God says ALL Prophets after Jesus are LIERS
    And John the Baptist said. Of Gods Lamb “He must increase,
    I (a Prophet) must decrease.
    The Pentecostal Movement is from Man and NOT from God.
    Tongues was a Prophetic Message in real. Languages of the Nations
    Eg greek
    Sometimes people were present with the Tongue as Mother Tongue,
    (This was the case “Interpretor present”
    Or sometimes no one happened to have the Tongue as Mother Tongue (this was the case “Unknown Tongue”)
    But even then the Speaker knew God spoke through him in a real language and his Faith was edified.
    In Contrast the Gibberish of Pentecostals comes ONLY according to the will of man,he can switch his Gibberish on and off whenever he likes,he can do it on Toilet,or elevator or in his car whenever it pleases him.
    The real Prophecy in foreign tongues of this World
    Came unexpectedly alone when God chose to speak
    According to sovereign will of God ( 2 Peter 1:21)
    And he that believes in Grace WITHOUT Works has 100% spirit of Jesus,
    He that trusts in Works eg of doing hourlong praise singing
    Does not have Gods spirit (Gal 3 and Gal 5:4)
    Seperate yourselves from lies of pentecostals and jesus will set you free.
    Wolfgang from Munich germany

  19. Ludwig says:

    The resurrection is fulfilment of the cross,
    Therefore after this Sign of Jonah there can be no more Prophecy,
    Because all True Prophets spoke of only Jesus who was to come,
    And Prophecy speaks of new future things,
    But concerning Jesus there can be no new future things other than End of World,which no one can predict.
    Read Zechariah
    After Jesus (zech 13:1)
    Are ALL Prophets that come after jesus speakers of Lies (zech 13:3)
    Pentecostals are from false prophets.
    Only Jesus is God
    Therefore Miracles of the Apostles was a great exception
    Because Apostles were Men and not God,
    The sole purpose of this Exception was that Jesus was not allowed to
    Show his Resurrection to the World,
    The Apostles did Miracles BEFORE Jesus died,
    Then STOP
    And then later resumed Miracles
    This is Proof of Sign of Jonah that this Jesis lives who was dead.
    Otherwise the miracles would have stopped.
    Part of this Sign of Jonah was the Sign of non jews speaking prophecy in foreign tongues of the nations eg Greek
    Sometimes there happened to be people with the tongues as mother tongue this was “interpretor present”
    Sometimes no one had the tongue as mother tongue
    This was the case “unknown tongue”but even then the speaker himself knew that god had spoken through him in a real language.
    This real true tongues came unexpectedly alone by sovereign will of God ( 2 Peter 1:21)
    In contrast the false gibberish of pentecostal-cult comes only by will of man,
    The pentecostal can do his gibberish whenever he feels like doing it,
    The will of man and exact opposite of true tongues.
    The Sign of jonah was the very last sign and part of it was that the believers who believed the apostles word prophesied.
    All so called Prophets today are LIERS without exception.
    God says in zechariah 13:1 Jesus
    Then after Jesus Zechariah 13:3 are ALL “Prophets” LIERS that deserve to die.
    Sincerely Ludwig from germany

  20. torsten says:

    Jesus said if the fruit is bad then the tree is bad.
    The whole Pentecostalcult is based on Lies invented by perverse false prophets like Frank W Sandford who started pentecostalcult with his pupil and friend Charles Parham
    The biggest lie of the pentecostal cult is that they say they believe in “Grace”
    But they do exactly the opposite and trust in empty Works
    Of praising God for hours on end
    They say that makes you “strong” in the “spirit”
    But the only Strength is FAITH in Grace alone without Works
    The Pentecostals also claim one receives more of the “Spirit”
    When you sing lots of songs of praise for hours on end
    But thats not true
    He that has believed the simple truth of Grace without Works
    Has already hundredprocent the Spirit of Life in Jesus Christ
    And every spiritual blessing in Christ
    He that trusts in Works of praising God or other pointless Works
    Does not have the Spirit of Jesus Christ
    And is still trapped in his Sins
    And separated from the forgiveness of Grace (Gal 5:4)
    Separate yourself from all the Lies of the Pentecostal Cult
    And Gods Grace will set you free from the power of sin
    That you can live holy in the Fear of God
    Also seeparate yourself from the people in this Cult
    And you will be a cleaan holy vessel for God
    (2 Timothy 2:21)
    ALL true prophecy speaks of Jesus
    But since the Resurrection all is fulfilled concerning Jesus
    So there can be no “new” messages concerning Jesus
    That is why the true Elias John the Baptist who came BEFORE Jesus said “AFTER Jesus the Lamb is come I John must DECREASE
    And Jesus must INCREASE
    Because the Resurrection makes prophecy obsolete and pointless
    After jesus is risen there can be no new prophecies
    The last prophecy was the true propecies in foreign tongues of the heathen
    Which was part of the confirmation of the Sign of Jonah
    That Jesus rose from the dead
    Jesus said the Sign of jonah is the very last Sign
    Thats why Paul said that the prophecies spoken at pentecost in real languages of the heaathen (not to be confusd with pentecostal gibberish)
    Was the fulfillment of joels prophecy
    And Joel said first in Joel 2:27 “You will know i am the Lord and none else”
    This is the Resurrection the confirmation that Jesus is God
    And then joel says in Joel 2:27 “AFTERWARD….”Your Sons wil prophecy etc
    This happened at Pentecost and will never be repeated
    Because either you believe jesus rose from the dead or you deny God
    In that you do not believe this Fact that the Apostlees preached and confirmed.
    And joel said the Sun will be darkened before the resurrection
    This happened after Jesus died on the cross the Sun was darkened at midday.
    All these signs that joel prophesied were fulfilled at pentecost.
    Before jesus returns their will be only false prophets and Sin
    The true Elias is already come before Jesus died on the cross
    And this true Elias John the Baptist did no miracles (John 10;41)

  21. Jim Harper says:

    This seems to stretch the point a bit. In my experience, Pastor Smith does not fully endorse anyone but defers always to scripture. It was very difficult to disassociate from John Wimbers Vineyard movement but Chuck Smith did so in favor of Scripture. While a Methodist minister originally, I never heard him promote any Methodist body. I believe he would have stood with Luther’s “Sola Scriptura” Scripture only and plain reason. This blog is reaching.

  22. Mr C Pope says:

    Futurist Heresy is what it is,this one is called “the secret rapture heresy”. Emanuel Lacunza wrote”The coming Messiah in Glory and Magesty” released in1812 in Latin and built on John Rebias work in the 1400s. Both were Jesuits converted to the church from Judism in Spain,Lacunza served in Peru.Banned as a futurist heresy( projects bible prophecies that have come to pass,old Test., into the future ,in effect denying Gods fulfilment of his word.Example ,the fall of Babylon, which is now projected into the “End Times”,and many others. Now denied member ship in tradistional denomanations(rapture heretics), they are Proudly Non-denomanational! Translated in to english in 1928 by an eccentric Scottish young man John Irving .It went viral with kooky elites. Darby and Scofield spread it in USA in 1860s , again to the wealthy . So man up,you are all Heretics!


  23. patroba sikuku mukenya says:

    am a founder and pastor of Bethesda Life Church in Nairobi city Kenya . As a ministry we reach out schools, hospitals and prisons.,we also organize crusades seminars and conference we also organize business teachings for men and women and politicians who are in business .As a ministry we are out to proclaim the word of God as it is in disciplining centers. We also work with widows , orphans and less fortunate, we have put up a center of sowing .This help widows to be self independents.We are trusting God for more machine so that we can open other centre, because the need is huge.We are also trusting God to put a home to people who have no home and take the orphans to school so that they may get education.All this we cannot do it alone thats why we need you? Please come and let work together as partnership. We love and we praying with you. Remember us also in Prayers Yours Faithfully Apostle Patroba S. Mukenya

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