The scandal of the naked body scanners

Posted: June 18, 2010 in End times, Social Trends
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You want to board a flight to some holiday resort, but before you can board your flight you discovered that your entire family must undress and pose naked for the delights of some unknown leering airport official.  Crazy you say

Illustration of the full body scanner

, against my constitutional rights you demand.  But as crazy as this may seem that is exactly what you are being asked.  New full body scanners which have recently been introduced in many airports can scan every bit of you right through your clothes.

Now I have always been of the opinion that these images will land up in some porn web site.    This report shows quite clearly that is where we are going.

  • “A security officer puts himself through a full-body scanner at Manchester Airport, left. Objects hidden under his clothes – as well as the outline of his body, including genitals, buttocks and torso – are visible to the operator monitoring the resulting images

The rapid introduction of full body scanners at British airports threatens to breach child protection laws which ban the creation of indecent images of children, the Guardian has learned.

Privacy campaigners claim the images created by the machines are so graphic they amount to “virtual strip-searching” and have called for safeguards to protect the privacy of passengers involved.


Pont 1


Indian actor Shahrukh Khan had passed through a body scan and later had the image of his naked body printed out and circulated by Heathrow security staff.

I was in London recently going through the airport and these new machines have come up, the body scans. You’ve got to see them. It makes you embarrassed – if you’re not well endowed,” said Khan, referring to how the scans produce clear images of a person’s genitals.

“You walk intothe machine and everything – the whole outline of your body – comes out,” he said.

“I was a little scared. Something happens [inside the scans], and I came out. Then I saw these girls – they had these printouts. I looked at them. I thought they were some forms you had to fill. I said ‘give them to me’ – and you could see everything inside. So I autographed them for them,” stated Khan.

Claims on behalf of authorities that naked body scanner images are immediately destroyed after passengers pass through new x-ray backscatter devices have been proven fraudulent


“Reported that the images produced by the scanner were deleted immediately and airport staffs carrying out the procedure are fully trained and supervised….. “It is very important to stress that the images which are captured by body scanners are immediately deleted after the passenger has gone through the body scanner,” London Evening Standard reports

However, the Transport Secretary’s assurances were demolished after it was revealed on the BBC’s Jonathan Ross show that Indian actor Shahrukh Khan had passed through a body scan and later had the image of his naked body printed out and circulated by Heathrow security staff.

So images can be printed out.

Point 2 & 3

These images can’t be saved or transmitted.


As it turns out, the machines can save images. This was confirmed in a letter sent to Rep. Bennie G. Thompson, Chairman of the Committee on Homeland Security,  at approximately the same time the government claimed the machines are safe and cannot save images. In fact, this ability is a government requirement.

The fact you can go online and see examples of people who have been scanned.  For training purposes only they would say!.  Yeah just wait! reveals that the technology can be saved.

“TSA requires AIT machines to have the capability to retain and export imagines (sic) only for testing, training, and evaluation purposes,” states a TSA letter dated February 24, 2010 and signed by Gale D. Rossides, Acting Administrator.

The machines indeed store and transmit images. According to Rossides, however, this ability is limited to engineers, training contractors, and “Z” level users. “Z” level users are described as select lab personnel from the TSA’s Office of Security Technology.

It was not “Z” level employees, however, who printed a naked image of.  It was security personnel at Heathrow Airport in London. Security at British airports, of course, is not run by the TSA. But the incident proves the machines can be used to print images and, as the TSA admits, transmit them.

Do you believe the government when it claims only lab techs and training instructors have access to these images? Is it possible the images are accessed by the NSA and other super-secret intelligence agencies and included in biometric dossiers kept by the government?

The images are apparently also sent to the TSA’s Threat Mitigation Lab.

  • “TSA requires AIT machines to have the capability to retain and export imagines only for testing training, and evaluation purposes.  Testing was done at the TSA Systems integration Facility (TSIF) and the transportation Security laboratory (TSL) Images used for operator training were also recorded and used at the threat mitigation Laboratory (TML), the facility were Transportation  Security officer (TSO) training…..!

Point 4

Child pornography and civil liberties

It turns out that these scanners violate child protection laws, which deem it illegal to create an indecent image or “pseudo-image” of a child under the age of 16.

However it has been reported that Children selected to walk through the full body scanners at airports must do so, the transport secretary has said. 29 March 2010 of this year

The fact that any child is required to pass through these scanners is nothing more than a criminal offence. Its child abuse in anyone’s language

The government said it was aware of concerns under the Protection of Children Act, but that there were also provisions for the prevention, detection or investigation of crime.

The government described its privacy controls as sufficient, but added that “some individuals, such as trans-gendered, disabled or elderly passengers, or passengers with particular religious or other beliefs might, notwithstanding the existing privacy controls, have concerns about undergoing a security scan

So in order to prevent a crime they have to commit a crime?

In general it is believed that children who are under 18 are not being pressurised to undergo this porn procedure as yet.    But for how long before they succumbed is only a matter of time. It may be soon that the wrong man in the wrong job can spend all day watching porn and not be charged.  He  will be protected by the LAW.

Point 5

The virtual strip search (We are all professionals here)

As we have seen in point (1 ) the so called professional ethics went out the window when the image of a famous film star was identified, scanned, saved and printed and then distributed.    This alone should have alarm bells ringing.  The idea that someone somewhere close by is watching you naked.  Who is watching him in case he abuses the process?  Then we might add who is watching the watcher.  .

Furthermore, we were told that the identity of the person undergoing the virtual strip search would also be kept private. The fact that Heathrow employees must have known that the actor was about to take the body scan in order to print out copies of the image also proves this claim to be a total fallacy.

The abuse of the naked body scan images in this instance is a total violation of every data protection law in the UK. Far from treating the story in a comical manner, Khan should be filing a very expensive lawsuit and preparing for a successful and lucrative outcome.

In the meantime, the revelation that the naked body scanner images are being freely printed out and circulated by airport security staff should prove to be the death knell for plans on behalf of governments worldwide to institute the scanners on a widespread basis.

Muslim woman was barred from boarding a flight after she refused to undergo a full body scan for religious reasons.

The passenger was passing through security at Manchester Airport when she was selected at random for a full-body scanner.

She was warned that she would be stopped from boarding the plane but she decided to forfeit her ticket to Pakistan rather than submit to the scan. Her female travelling companion also declined to step into the scanner, citing “medical reasons” for her refusal.

The two women are thought to be the first passengers to refuse to submit to scanning by the machines, which have provoked controversy among human rights groups.

Civil liberties campaigners have said the scans represent an invasion of privacy and their introduction may yet be challenged by the Human Rights Commission.

.Point 6

But there is still some uncertainty as to how dangerous the machines are, because a scan with microwaves corresponds to 10,000 mobile phone conversations.

They have thrown these machines up in airports with no knowledge or understanding of the long term effect that some travellers might have.

Point 7

Could X-ray scanners work on the street?

X-ray cameras that would “undress” passers-by in a bid to thwart terrorists concealing weapons, could be coming to a street near you, according to reports. Aside from the obvious privacy issues, would such a plan work? Leaked documents said to have been drawn up by the Home Office and seen by the Sun newspaper say cameras which can see through clothes could be built into lamp posts to “trap terror suspects”.

While Home Secretary John Reid has denied knowledge of the plans, the technology is not dissimilar to that already found in some UK airports. Currently, air security officials pick out individuals to stand in a booth while three pictures are taken of the person in slightly different positions.

The potential and the technology are already available.  It is simply a matter of time as to whether they will be used.

Point 8

Loose tongues and privacy issue.

Another issue is what happens when the man/ woman who views these porn images goes down to their pub.  Gets a few bears into them and their tongues starts to loosen. Suddenly they start to share with everyone in the pub what they have seen.  Suddenly every oddity that was scrutinised becomes the subject of some local pub gossip.

Point 9

Youtube, click it’s that easy

It only takes a second to click with your phone and the rest of the world could be viewing you naked.  I believe that man who is separated and corrupt will find a way to take advantage of this new technology.   Once your photo is in cyberspace there is no way to get it back.

Point 10

Man is lost

  • Jer 17:9 “The heart [is] deceitful above all [things], and desperately wicked: who can know it?”
  • Gen 6:5 “And GOD saw that the wickedness of man [was] great in the earth, and [that] every imagination of the thoughts of his heart [was] only evil continually.”
  • Jer 23:16- 17 “  Thus saith the LORD of hosts, Hearken not unto the words of the prophets that prophesy unto you: they make you vain: they speak a vision of their own heart, [and] not out of the mouth of the LORD.    They say still unto them that despise me, The LORD hath said, Ye shall have peace; and they say unto every one that walketh after the imagination of his own heart, No evil shall come upon you.”
    Eph 2:2 “Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience:

The Bible says there is another spirit that worketh in the children of disobedience.  There is a downward pull that does not just separate mankind from God but it inclination is always towards disobedience and evil.  It is unethical and unhealthy for any individual to watch porn day in and day out.  I don’t care if it is his job.  It will corrupt destitute them and make them immoral beings.

It will affect their personal lives and those of their immediate families.  It cannot do anything else.

Point 11

Job appeal

Because of the sinfulness of man this type of Job will attract the perverts, the paedophiles and any other despite that seeks to be gain employment at such places.

Who is going to feel comfortable with the possibility that the person looking is also thinking!

  1. niceandnew says:

    Hey! Here’s a recent article on SRK if you are his fan!

  2. While I may not be a fan. Its is nice to be able to put a face to the article. Thanks

  3. Recent news

    Well NO revelation there.

    The CNET news reports says

    “Despite claims by the TSA that electronic body scans images cannot be stored or recorded. Some federal police agencies are in fact storing tens of thousands of images, according to a report by CNET news. According to CNET, the US marshals service admitted this week that it had saved thousands of images that have been recorded from a security checkpoint in a Florida courthouse.

    This privacy debate, which has been simmering since the days of the Bush administration, came to a boil two weeks ago when Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano announced that scanners would soon appear at virtually every major airport. The updated list includes airports in New York City, Dallas, Washington, Miami, San Francisco, Seattle, and Philadelphia.

    The Electronic Privacy Information Center, a Washington, D.C.-based advocacy group, has filed a lawsuit asking a federal judge to grant an immediate injunction pulling the plug on TSA’s body scanning program. In a separate lawsuit, EPIC obtained a letter from the Marshals Service, part of the Justice Department, and released it on Tuesday afternoon.

    These “devices are designed and deployed in a way that allows the images to be routinely stored and recorded, which is exactly what the Marshals Service is doing,” EPIC executive director Marc Rotenberg told CNET. “We think it’s significant.”

    William Bordley, an associate general counsel with the Marshals Service, acknowledged in the letter that “approximately 35,314 images…have been stored on the Brijot Gen2 machine” used in the Orlando, Fla. federal courthouse. In addition, Bordley wrote, a Millivision machine was tested in the Washington, D.C. federal courthouse but it was sent back to the manufacturer, which now apparently possesses the image database.

    The Gen 2 machine, manufactured by Brijot of Lake Mary, Fla., uses a millimeter wave radiometer and accompanying video camera to store up to 40,000 images and records. Brijot boasts that it can even be operated remotely: “The Gen 2 detection engine capability eliminates the need for constant user observation and local operation for effective monitoring. Using our APIs, instantly connect to your units from a remote location via the Brijot Client interface.”
    This trickle of disclosures about the true capabilities of body scanners–and how they’re being used in practice–is probably what alarms privacy advocates more than anything else.

    A 70-page document showing the TSA’s procurement specifications, classified as “sensitive security information,” says that in some modes the scanner must “allow exporting of image data in real time” and provide a mechanism for “high-speed transfer of image data” over the network. (It also says that image filters will “protect the identity, modesty, and privacy of the passenger.”)

    “TSA is not being straightforward with the public about the capabilities of these devices,” Rotenberg said. “This is the Department of Homeland Security subjecting every U.S. traveler to an intrusive search that can be recorded without any suspicion–I think it’s outrageous.” EPIC’s lawsuit says that the TSA should have announced formal regulations, and argues that the body scanners violate the Fourth Amendment, which prohibits “unreasonable” searches.
    TSA spokeswoman Sari Koshetz told CNET on Wednesday that the agency’s scanners are delivered to airports with the image recording functions turned off. “We’re not recording them,” she said. “I’m reiterating that to the public. We are not ever activating those capabilities at the airport.”
    The TSA maintains that body scanning is perfectly constitutional: “The program is designed to respect individual sensibilities regarding privacy, modesty and personal autonomy to the maximum extent possible, while still performing its crucial function of protecting all members of the public from potentially catastrophic events.”

    The truth about this new technology is quickly coming out and civil liberty groups are quickly realising that people rights are being trashed. Somehow the end justifies the means, But the means does not justify the end. Even if these machines did or did not store images, the simple fact that people human rights are being violated by a machine that can expose your basic modesty.


  4. While the cartoon is regarded as light humour. The reality behind it is not so funny. Thought should be given to the reality that people are being subjected to this sort of thing all the time. Personnaly its time it STOPS!

  5. Ron Paul Responds to TSA: Introduces ‘American Traveler Dignity Act’
    Nov. 17, 2010 – Congressman Ron Paul (TX-14) introduces the American Traveler Dignity Act in response to regulatory measures taken by the TSA to implement potentially dangerous X-Ray screening procedures or invasive “pat-downs” by TSA officials. Campaign for Liberty has released a written statement opposing this regulatory overreach by the TSA.

    “My legislation is simple. It establishes that airport security screeners are not immune from any US law regarding physical contact with another person, making images of another person, or causing physical harm through the use of radiation-emitting machinery on another person. It means they are subject to the same laws as the rest of us.

    Moving beyond the current controversy over scanners and pat-downs, Paul also commented more broadly on airline security since 9/11:

    I warned at the time of the creation of the TSA that an unaccountable government entity in control of airport security would provide neither security nor defend our basic freedom to travel. Yet the vast majority of both Republicans and Democrats then in Congress willingly voted to create another unaccountable, bullying agency—in a simple-minded and unprincipled attempt to appease public passion in the wake of 9-11. Sadly, as we see with the steady TSA encroachment on our freedom and dignity, my fears in 2001 were justified.

    I’m not sure that going after individual screeners with, say, sexual harassment charges really gets to the root of the issue; they aren’t the ones making policy. Still, it’s heartening to see travelers’ concerns being taken up at the highest levels in Washington. (Via Gadling)

    UCMinistries: At least its a begining

  6. On a more recent report to do with an airport flight attendent:

    TSA Made Breast Cancer Survivor Remove Prosthetic Breast

    A female flight attendant is reviving her complaints against the TSA for being forced to undergo an aggressive “pat down” even after submitting to a backscatter scan on her way to work a flight. Since August, flight attendant Cathy Bossi has been attempting to demand a change in the procedure toward new “enhanced” pat downs, which for her resulted in being asked even to remove her prosthetic breast.

    She says two female Charlotte T.S.A. agents took her to a private room and began what she calls an aggressive pat down. She says they stopped when they got around to feeling her right breast… the one where she’d had surgery.

    “She put her full hand on my breast and said, ‘What is this?’. And I said, ‘It’s my prosthesis because I’ve had breast cancer.’ And she said, ‘Well, you’ll need to show me that’.”

    Cathy was asked to show her prosthetic breast, removing it from her bra.

    “I did not take the name of the person at the time because it was just so horrific of an experience, I couldn’t believe someone had done that to me. I’m a flight attendant. I was just trying to get to work.”

    Since then, Cathy has contacted the Legislative Affairs Team, a group through the flight attendant union. She says she wants to see a crackdown on these personal pat downs.

    “There are blowers and there are dogs out there that can sniff out bombs,” she says. “There’s no reason to have somebody’s hands touching your body parts.”

    The aggressive new enhanced pat downs have been getting copious media coverage in the recent weeks, with accusations of sexual assault, child molestation, and basic privacy violations. For cancer survivors, who would be less inclined to use the full body scanners due to potential radiation issues, a pat down is likely their only option. And to be forced to both undergo a scan, then still have a patdown, and then finally be asked to remove your prosthesis is beyond simple “security” measures.


  7. Lets get the facts straight first. Before the video started the boy went through a metal detector and didn’t set it off but was selected for a pat down. The boy was shy so the TSA couldn’t complete the full pat on the young boy. The father tried several times to just hold the boys arms out for the TSA agent but i guess it didn’t end up being enough for the guy. I was about 30 ft away so i couldn’t hear their conversation if there was any. The enraged father pulled his son shirt off and gave it to the TSA agent to search, thats when this video begins.


    ***Insertion of what happened after the video (full story)****

    After I finished videotaping the incident I went through the check point myself. I collected my things and went over to talk to the father and son. Before I could get to them a man in a black suit who had been talking with the other TSA officials approached me. He asked to speak to me and I obliged, wondering what was to come. He then proceeded to interrogate me about why I was videotaping the “procedures of the TSA”. I told him that I had never seen such practices before on a young child and decided to record it. The man being frustrated at this point demanded to know my plans with the video, of which I didn’t respond. Repeatedly he asked me to delete the video, hoping his mere presence could intimidate me to obey, but I refused. By this point it became obvious that he felt TSA had done something wrong and that I caught it on tape. After the interview, I left for my gate. I called my brother who told me I should put the tape on YouTube because this had been a recent hot topic in the news.
    My gate was a long way off, but about 15 minutes after arriving 2 TSA agents came and sat 15 feet or so away from me. I stood up and moved so that they were in front of me and then took a picture. A 3rd and then a 4th agent came and sat down with the others. They would occasionally glance at me and talk on their walkie-talkies. I don’t know why they were there or if it was a huge coincidence but they stayed for 30-45 minutes and left just before I boarded the plan. Interesting to say the least, intimidating? Maybe a little…

    UCMINISTRIES: when does it take three or more officers to undress and check the lad out. Watch the video and see how many were involved. This is disgusting.


    Aviation security
    Canadians outraged: Veiled Muslim women not required to lift veil, prove ID at airports
    Published 4 August 2010

    Canadian airport security personnel do not ask veiled Muslims women to lift their veils, show and ID, and prove their identity; the veiled women do not even interact with security personnel: rather, a man traveling with the women typically hands in all the passports and is the only one to communicate with airline staff while the veiled women simply walk through, unchecked and unidentified; a video showing two veiled women walking unchecked through security at Montreal’s Trudeau International Airport causes outrage in Canada

    Even male criminals have escaped by hiding behind the veil // Source:

    Frequent flyers know the drill well: take off your shoes, surrender your tweezers, and pack your shampoo in those little plastic baggies before lining up for the naked body scanners. How about lifting your niqab? Apparently not.

    The Toronto Sun’s Brian Lilley and Bryn Weese write that neither airlines nor security services are asking Muslim women to lift their veils and prove that the face beneath matches their photo ID.

    The issue came to light through a video taken by Mick Flynn of Bradford, England. Flynn was boarding a flight at Montreal’s Trudeau International Airport when he witnessed two women with their faces covered board an Air Canada Heathrow-bound flight without being asked to remove their veils.

    In fact, in the video that Flynn has posted online, a man traveling with the women hands in all the passports and is the only one to interact with airline staff while two veiled women simply walk through.

    “I complained at the desk — and again as I boarded the plane — asking if the pilot was happy that two women boarded without being identified,” Flynn told QMI News Agency. “Both members of staff whom I spoke to were flustered and clearly embarrassed.”

    Lilley and Bryn Weese write that Flynn’s communication with Air Canada and his video posting have resulted in a threatened lawsuit from the airline. As for answers from the company about security procedures, their response reveals holes in Canada’s air security.

    “Airline passengers have already undergone multiple security checks before arriving at the boarding gate,” Air Canada spokesman Peter Fitzpatrick told QMI. “A final check is made at the gate prior to boarding in order to confirm passengers on the flight.”

    Air Canada says it is capable of checking identification in a private room away from the check-in counter, but said the real responsibility for security measures lies with CATSA, the Canadian Air Transport Security Agency.

    CATSA. disagrees. Greg MacDougall, a spokesman for CATSA, told QMI that their guards are primarily looking for metal, weapons, or other banned material, not ensuring that veiled faces match passport photos. “We don’t have concerns with that. We have concerns with the fact if the person has any metal under their clothing,” MacDougall said.

    A former CATSA employee, who, until recently worked as a frontline screener, tells QMI: “We were never allowed to ask anyone with a veil to lift it. It is their religion.”

    Frontline workers for several airlines say that any checks, if they happen at all, would likely happen at the check-in desk, not at boarding or security.

    Most airports, however, have wide gaps between where baggage is checked and the secure portions of the airport.

    Transport Canada says there should be no confusion: “The airline must be able to verify the identity of all passengers before they are allowed to board,” the department said in a written statement.

    Lawyer David Harris of INSIGNIS Strategic Research says Canadians should be concerned about what he deems preferential treatment. “Full veiling has been a boon for those participating in criminal and terrorist operations,” Harris said pointing to the story of Mustaf Jama.

    Jama, a Somali national with a long criminal record, was wanted in Britain for the 2006 murder of police constable Sharon Beshenivsky. As police closed in to arrest the career criminal, Jama was able to escape back to Somalia by wearing a full veil and boarding a flight at Heathrow airport.

    Harris’s call for lifting the veil is backed up by two Muslim groups often at odds with each other, the Muslim Canadian Congress and the Council on American-Islamic Relations, Canada.

    “You cannot allow a person wearing a mask to be in the perimeter of an airport,” says Tarek Fatah of the Congress. “If you don’t want to take off the mask, take the TTC (public transit) to Cairo.”

    “Women who wear the niqab are not constrained by the religious belief from removing their veil for legitimate reasons, and security is one of them,” said Ihsaan Gardee, executive director of CAIR-CAN.

    Gardee admits that Canadian officials may be reluctant to deal with this issue head-on due to concerns about political correctness. “It’s something that needs to be addressed,” Gardee said.

    Gardee says it would be preferable if female staff were able to conduct any screening that involved removing the veil but adds that if female staff are not available, the women must still be forced to remove their niqab.

    UC MINISTRIES: The excuse people are being told is that these procedures are for our safety. BUT FROM WHOM? Moslems blowing up aircrafts. But the security is allowing Moslems women to pass through without checking that they are who they say they are.


  9. A Michigan bladder cancer survivor says TSA agents removed his Colostomy bag, soaking his pants, despite warning Thomas Sawyer, 61, suggested more training to help airport screeners better understand medical conditions

    UC MINISTRIES: Since the making of this video, it has been reported that the head of the TSA has made contact and appologied. But as we have seen “NO CHANGE” is in the wings


    TSA complain.

    Furious security staff today hit back at pat down searches in airports across America, claiming that they hated dealing with obese travellers and those with personal hygiene problems.

    As millions of people prepared to travel for Thanksgiving, passenger backlash was growing against the measures introduced by the Transportation Security Administration (TSA).

    But after being contacted by a travel blog, 17 security staff came forward to express their disgust at the policy put in place last month.

    They said that they hated having to carry out body searches, with one claiming that it was worse for him than the passenger.
    ‘It is not comfortable to come to work knowing full well that my hands will be feeling another man’s private parts, their butt, their inner thigh,’ one told the Boarding Area blog.

    ‘Even worse is having to try and feel inside the flab rolls of obese passengers and we seem to get a lot of obese passengers!’
    Another said he had a huge problem dealing with a ‘large number of passengers… daily that have a problem understanding what personal hygieneFur is.’

    All the staff said that they had experienced a high level of personal abuse while carrying out the pat-downs.

    ‘Being a TSO means often being verbally abused, you let the comments roll off and check the next person,’ one said.
    ‘However, when a woman refuses the scanner then comes to me and tells me that she feels like I am molesting her, that is beyond verbal abuse.

    ‘I asked the woman if she thought I like touching other women all day and she told me that I probably did or I wouldn’t be with the TSA.

    ‘I just want to tell these people that I feel disgusted feeling other peoples private parts, but I cannot because I am a professional.’

    Angry passengers have subjected TSA officers to verbal abuse and even physical threats.
    The American Federation of Government Employee, the union which represents officers, said a TSO was punched by a passenger in Indianapolis.

    Union President John Gage called for more information on the searches including leaflets for passengers.

    He said: ‘TSA must act now — before the Thanksgiving rush — to ensure that TSOs are not being left to fend for themselves.’

    UC MINISTRIES: People who travel or are about to travel will probably have been rushing around all day. They dont expect someone to come along and molest them. Sniff their butt or go anywhere near them.

    If these TSA dont like what they do, then dont do it.

  11. It would seem that the TSA has managed to out do itself. In a recent report:

    TSA Terrorize A Disabled 4 Year Old Boy By Removing His Leg Braces, Then Forcing Him To Walk.

    The fact that his parents were there and his dad was a police officer. What posseses a person to do such a thing. A cival suit should be in the offer here, never mind an appology.

    The reporter finishes by saying “THE STUPIDITY IS… BREATHTAKING”

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