When someone comes knocking and it’s not the postman.

Posted: June 8, 2010 in false teachers, Watchtower Society
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Personally I find that it usually happens when I am about to sit down for a meal.  There before me is usually either two women or two men.  Without any introduction they try to hand you a leaflet.  Now you know before you start they are from the Watchtowers Society, although this movement is more commonly known as the Jehovah witnesses.  Now be warned the moment you accept anything from them you are setting yourselves up for a return visit.  If you don’t want them back too quickly refuse everything they try to hand you.

Now it might surprise many that in general Jehovah witnesses (JW) except for a small hard core don’t go around the doors because they want to, but because they have to.  They also have to fill in reports accounting for their time and who and what they have done with it.  If they are blown of by a born again Christian guess what you are down on some report somewhere.  Not that we care.

I remember looking out of my window some years ago and noticed a group of JW across the street.  An old lady in her nineties was helped out of a car.  Frail and weak she held onto the arm of a young girl.  She was taken to the first gate, but preceded no further.  Then she was taken to another gate again going no further.  Finally she was taken back to the car she came out from.  Now the sight of this Ninety year old woman going to the front of two gates and then taken back to a waiting car was more than odd.  But I knew what they were doing.  It was so they could boast that this old Ninety years old was still doing the work of a JW.  The fact she never actually engaged anyone let alone knock on the door showed the deceptive games these people play.

I know because we had a next door neighbour who was a JW.   While she was happy to give watchtower information she would refuse to be given any Christian material back.  Until one day I slipped a Tract into one of her magazines by an ex witness titled “why I am a witness.”  Naturally the witness was a Christian witness.  She read it not knowing what it was till after she had read it.  Anyway the woman had a daughter who needed her tonsil removed.  That meant an operation and consent for a blood transfusion.  Sadly she turned the operation down and her daughter had to remain with whatever issues she had with her tonsils.  As neighbours we could see the dilemmas and pressures this single woman had to contend with.

What we did learn is that the JW try to use some form of strategy when going round the doors.  For example if the street has a lot of people with families.  The JW will drag their children around the street with them.  If there are a lot of older people in the street they would have JW who are that age group in order to try and attract that social age group.

Now usually when they do knock one will be the trainee and the other the more seasoned one.  They will come with some form of prepared speech.  But don’t let that put you off.

As a Christian I hope you will have some good Bible knowledge about you.  If so they will be at a disadvantaged before they even step foot on your door step.    In fact keeping them on the door step while the others walk up and down the street actually scares the day life out of them.  Honestly by keeping them on your door step stops them from being on someone else’s door.  I have had to tell some of these JW to relax and not to worry as their friends will not leave without them.  You can actually see them relaxing after that.  It’s the worry look over the shoulder bit that gives it away.  They become very nervous if they are kept too long on the door.  Not only that but you have the Holy Spirit and they don’t.

When is a resurrection not a resurrection

The best area of discussion I have found with them is the area of the resurrection

  • 1 Cor 15:12 15 “Now if Christ be preached that he rose from the dead, HOW SAY SOME AMONG YOU THAT THERE IS NO RESURRECTION OF THE DEAD?  But if there be no resurrection of the dead, then is Christ not risen: And if Christ be not risen, then [is] our preaching VAIN, and your faith [is] also vain. Yea, and we are found false witnesses of God; because we have testified of God that he raised up Christ: whom he raised not up, if so be that the dead rise not.”

The word VAIN :  means, 1) empty, vain, devoid of truth a) of places, vessels, etc. which contain nothing b) of men

If there is not resurrection then they are devoid of the truth and have nothing to offer.  This verse speaks about the JW.  For they deny the literal resurrection of the dead.  Now let me explain.

The JW do not believe in an immortal soul. At the death of the body everything dies Puff!! Nothing lives on after that.    This becomes a major obstacle for them, its just they don’t know it yet.

The phrase they will often use in relation to this subject is :

“GOD WILL RESURRECT HIS REMEMBRANCE YOU”.

Once they come out with that statement it’s all over for them.  Let me explain.  I have debated this with quite a few.  What they are advocating is a CLONING of a person.  For God to (create) what he remembers is in fact a clone.

Once you grasp that what they are advocating is a recreation of a person and I have had JW elders admit that this is what they are saying.  You have them!

First a clone may be the exact duplicate of the original, but they are not the original.  You would then have two Mary’s or two Johns.  The first no longer exists having died.  What now stands before God is this other Mary which he has just created.

This means that the wicked can sin and go to the grave with the knowledge there is no punishment, and the righteous will go to his grave with disappointment because there is no reward.  Worst still is that the clone of the wicked will be punished for what he never committed and the clone of the righteous will be rewarded for what he never strived for.   Now you will say that this is utter foolishness and you will be correct.  But the average JW has never reasoned this out, which means only in this life will they have hope.  That is no hope at all.

Jesus that failed to be resurrected

Now what about Jesus did he not rise from the dead?  That’s the other problem.  NO resurrection no saviour.  So what do they believe rose from the dead.  In their eyes this was another clone created to give the impression that Jesus rose from the dead when he did not.  So God is pulled into what then becomes a massive LIE.  The disciples being deceived by something that was never the true Jesus.

The Proof text that is often used:

  • PS 6:5 “FOR IN DEATH [THERE IS] NO REMEMBRANCE OF THEE: IN THE GRAVE WHO SHALL GIVE THEE THANKS?”

Now it is easy to rip a scripture out of context and make it say something other than what is actually says.  Also the Old Testament did not have the full revelation of what took place beyond death.  There were exceptions: Job 19:25

Remeberance :   1) memorial, remembrance a) remembrance, memory b) memorial 1) death, dying, Death (personified), realm of the dead

It would be wrong to take these agonized words of David as evidence that there is no life beyond this life.  Most believe that what David is sharing is the fact that in death he would be unable to encourage and tell other about the faithfulness of God.  He would therefore be unable to leave a memorial to God which would be a witness to others.

David is talking about in the grave who shall give.   The body is what is placed in the grave and it the body that is unable to offer up any hope after it is dead.  It is the dead body that is unable to have a remembrance.  But nothing is said about the soul or the spirit.  That revelation comes from Jesus.

  • 2Tim 2:10 “says that Jesus brought life and immortality to light through the gospel

However there are Old Testament scriptures that look passed that veil of death and see beyond.

  • Ps 16:10 “ For thou wilt not leave my soul in hell; neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption.
  • Ps 17:15 “As for me, I will behold thy face in righteousness: I shall be satisfied, when I awake, with thy likeness.”
  • Ps 49:15 “But God will redeem my soul from the power of the grave: for he shall receive me. Selah.”
  • Ps 73:24 “Thou shalt guide me with thy counsel, and afterward receive me [to] glory.”
  • Job 19:25- 27“For I know [that] my redeemer liveth, and [that] HE SHALL STAND AT THE LATTER [DAY] UPON THE EARTH: And [though] after my skin [worms] destroy this [body], yet IN MY FLESH SHALL I SEE GOD: WHOM I SHALL SEE FOR MYSELF, and MINE EYES SHALL BEHOLD, AND NOT ANOTHER; [though] my reins be consumed within me  ”

This could have been written with a JW in mind.  Job acknowledges death as a reality but his hope is that he will see God for HIMSELF….. MINE EYES BEHOLD… AND NOT ANOTHER.

Otherwise he will see God and not some copy of himself.  This is valid proof that life exists after death.  His hopes will not be realised.

Hebrews 11 The great men of the faith who died and yet we are told that

  • 39-40 “And these all, having obtained a good report through faith, received not the promise: God having provided some better thing for us, that they without us should not be made perfect.”

If there is no life after death then there is NO PROMISE HERE to give comfort.  But we can be thankful that we will enter together.  That is the great hope and the great promise.

Hebrews 11 they are ALL alive and well

  • We might also think about the translation of Enoch and Elijah who never saw death.

Moses we know died and Elijah was taken up to heaven.  Now do we see another lie being perpetrated by God?  That would be nonsense.  Here we see two giants in the faith alive and well.

  • Matt 17:3 “And, behold, there appeared unto them Moses and Elias talking with him.”

Well this would suggest an after life does it not?

MOSES AND ELIJAH ALIVE AND WELL!

The understanding of the after-life was murky at best in the Old Testament; but Jesus let us know more about heaven and hell than anyone else could. Jesus could do this because He had first-hand knowledge of the world beyond. Matt 17:3

  • Ps 88:10 “Wilt thou shew wonders to the dead? shall the dead arise [and] praise thee? Selah.”

This is a question which by now we should be able to answer.

  • Mat 10:28 “And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.”

According to the Watchtower when you kill the body the soul is also killed.  However look again at what it says.  Fear not them which kill the body…WHY?  Because they cannot kill the soul. Rather fear him  (GOD) which is able to DESTROY both body and soul in hell

Jesus makes the distinction in this verse. Natural death can kill the body but not the soul.

  • Lk 16:22 “ And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham’s bosom: the rich man also died, and was buried;”

Having died that should have been the end of the story.  But Jesus takes his listeners beyond the veil.

However the watchtower would like to refer to this parable.  It makes it clear both the rich man and Lazarus died.  Having died they did lived on.

Lazarus is alive and well

  • Is 53:8 “He was taken from prison and from judgment: and who shall declare his generation? for he was CUT OFF OUT OF THE LAND OF THE LIVING: for the transgression of my people was he stricken.”
  • Is 53 is the great messianic Prophecy concerning Jesus.  Here it makes it plain he was cut of from the land of the living.  Ok we know he died.
  • Is 53:9 “And he made his grave with the wicked, and with the rich in his death; because he had done no violence, neither [was any] deceit in his mouth.”

This reinforces the fact that Jesus died and was buried.   Well no questions there is there.

  • Is 53: 10 “Yet it pleased the LORD to bruise him; he hath put [him] to grief: when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin, HE SHALL SEE [HIS] SEED, HE SHALL PROLONG [HIS] DAYS, AND THE PLEASURE OF THE LORD SHALL PROSPER IN HIS HAND. He SHALL SEE OF THE TRAVAIL OF HIS SOUL, [and] shall be satisfied: by his knowledge shall my righteous servant justify many; for he shall bear their iniquities.   ”

Now we have just seen him killed and his grave was with the wicked and with the rich man in his death.  But suddenly there is a change.  He shall seed his seed or his progeny.  God shall prolong his days.  It looks like he who was dead is now alive for evermore.   Sorry the idea of a clone does not fit here.  HE SHALL SEE HIS SEED does not mean that another will see his seed.  The clone is not the one who bore their iniquities.  This same Jesus who was crucified HE WILL SEE HIS SEED.

  • Acts 13:13 “God hath fulfilled the same unto us their children, in that he HATH RAISED UP JESUS AGAIN; as it is also written in the second psalm, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee.
  • Acts 2:32 “This Jesus hath God raised up, whereof we all are witnesses.”
  • Acts 2:36 “Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that GOD HATH MADE THAT SAME JESUS, WHOM YE HAVE CRUCIFIED, BOTH LORD AND CHRIST.”

The great cornerstone of the gospel lies in the fact that Jesus was raised from the dead.

You cannot give someone who has ceased to exist titles.

  • Ecc 8:8  [There is] no man that hath power over the spirit to retain the spirit; neither [hath he] power in the day of death: and [there is] no discharge in [that] war; neither shall wickedness deliver those that are given to it.

There has been only one who ever released his spirit

  • Lk 23:46 “And when Jesus had cried with a loud voice, he said, Father, INTO THY HANDS I COMMEND MY SPIRIT: and having said thus, he gave up the ghost.”

The word for COMMEND means to deposit for safe keeping.  In this case Jesus spirit.  Upon releasing it his physical body died.  No one else has that power to give up their own life.  The fact that he was able to deposit something means it was not lost.   So the spirit is separate from the physical body

  • Acts 7: 59 “And they stoned Stephen, calling upon [God], and saying, Lord Jesus, receive my spirit.”

Stephen could only ask that Jesus would take his life.  The fact that he was praying to Jesus would signify that Jesus was alive and well.

JESUS IS ALIVE AND WELL

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Comments
  1. joe says:

    an entire article devoted to criticizing the witnesses. it’s funny how many articles like this you see on the net. if only you guys wouldn’t be so single-minded in denigrating the witnesses, you’ll probably be more inclined to check the facts thoroughly before posting articles like this on the web. i could go on about how wrong your views are, but i won’t because it is evident your mind is pretty much made up. but i feel i must say this because your allegation affects the identity of every witness: Jehovah’s witnesses do not go from house because they have to. although witnesses have a sense of duty as they recognize their responsibility to go out and preach(Matthew 28:19,20; Acts 20:20), they do this out of genuine love for God and neighbor. it is this love that moves witnesses of all ages-including that very elderly lady who was most likely happy to be out in obedience to Jesus’ command, supporting her brothers and encouraging them by her presence- to go out and preach. i hope someday you will see the witnesses in new light. you could always ask a matured witness to explain his beliefs from the bible.

  2. The watchtower has one of the most proven records of false prophecies known to man. Only the foolish would ever dare to enter its doors. Any careful study of the watchtower would show that its a cult of the worst kind. A religion without a single hope. Without a single sense of assurance of salvation. A religion that denies salvation to its members and rejects the truth for a lie.

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